tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post4597181809831753488..comments2024-03-18T17:39:59.285-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: 5 and 9 PM UpdateCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger64125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-46719761097975086042008-12-22T02:19:00.000-08:002008-12-22T02:19:00.000-08:00Bob, I never saw your original comment, either. T...Bob, I never saw your original comment, either. There are all kinds of reasons why a message might fail to post, sadly. We may never know exactly what happened to your message, which sounds like it was awfully interesting. Given how many comments have been posted in the last 24 hours, it may just have been system overload at blogspot.<BR/><BR/>Care to recap in more detail?<BR/><BR/>About rescuing plants by removing the snow--that's a fine idea, but not if there's freezing rain coming. Having grown up in the stuff, we found that plants survive freezing rain better if there's an insulating/cushioning blanket of snow over them to protect them. If you do clean off a plant and then experience freezing rain, you can protect the plants by laying blankets or plastic sheets (both on some sort of frame) over them. When I lived in New Hampshire, I used to keep an old flannel sheet available to cover whatever needed to be protected. It made cleaning the car off a snap, lol.<BR/><BR/>Lyn in Lynnwood (who is running out of books--wonder if the library will be open today?)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-64469187334805433572008-12-22T02:01:00.000-08:002008-12-22T02:01:00.000-08:00Bob,I can see your comment at the end of that thre...Bob,<BR/><BR/>I can see your comment at the end of that thread (#122) which summarizes your earlier comments, but I never saw the original one (and I was on and reading around then, so who knows). Maybe your original post was too long?<BR/><BR/>I cleaned snow off our camelias and my 2nd year oak-leaf hydrangea last night. The snow weight was significant, especially with that layer of ice they got yesterday morning.<BR/><BR/>The real lengthy specifics, the kind Cliff needs but that are too long for the blog comments, maybe should be emailed directly to Cliff? Just a thought. :-)JewelyaZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434569437851248356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-18477666151126036502008-12-22T01:47:00.001-08:002008-12-22T01:47:00.001-08:00Thanks for the frequent and in-depth weather repor...Thanks for the frequent and in-depth weather reports. SO helpful! Now, if I could decide whether to risk traveling down to Eugene from Seattle on Tuesday....<BR/><BR/>FYI, I just received notice from Amazon that the copies of your book that I ordered weeks ago as holiday gifts may not be delivered until FEBRUARY. So much for the reprinting to have a "large supply available before the holidays." Grrr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-76664530775643760072008-12-22T01:47:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:47:00.000-08:00Hi, folks,I just posted Comment 122 on the comment...Hi, folks,<BR/><BR/>I just posted Comment 122 on the comment list for Cliff's Dec 21 morning report, asking if anyone had seen a longer comment I'd tried to post between 3 and 4 pm there and can't now see. Since many of you may not look back at that set of comments, I'm posting this here to ask you to look at that one and respond either by comment or by email if you can offer any help.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>Bob Moore (Lake Forest Park Tree Addict.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-70744426319979882462008-12-22T01:34:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:34:00.000-08:00NOAA has a Winter Weather Basics Web site that ans...NOAA has a <A>Winter Weather Basics</A> Web site that answers many common questions about that topic.<BR/><BR/>For more information about snow, see <A>All About Snow</A> at the National Snow and Ice Data Center.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-13454880749104893012008-12-22T01:06:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:06:00.000-08:00Shoveled the walk at about 6 pm in Duvall and we h...Shoveled the walk at about 6 pm in Duvall and we have 3 more inches. About 2 feet total on the ground. Weird that Carnation got so much less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-12788663306216820582008-12-22T01:04:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:04:00.000-08:00From Bothell at 1 AM: My husband measured 9.5" in ...From Bothell at 1 AM: My husband measured 9.5" in our back yard at 8 PM, and I see at least two inches of snow in his footprints looking out the back. It is still snowing large fat flakes here.<BR/><BR/>This site is like fivethirtyeight but for weather. I love it. Thanks, Cliff.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-62992193716817846662008-12-22T01:01:00.000-08:002008-12-22T01:01:00.000-08:00Here's the article that mentions Cliff's predictio...Here's the article that mentions Cliff's predictions, and has reasonably good coverage of the weather we're having too: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/22/us/22snow.html?ref=us<BR/><BR/>I'm glad to have been one of the people who asked about the very different kind of snowflake that we got Saturday night. :-)<BR/><BR/>To anonymous who wants everyone's precip and temperature reports separated from "the discussion" -- as if there's really a difference -- you're missing the point. We love to hear from Cliff and to think about what's happening but part of what's happening is represented by all those regional reports. I for one am glad to read them... they are really interesting.<BR/><BR/>Still snowing big flakes in Bellevue, by the way; it's been snowing continually since about 11 am Sunday and I wouldn't be shocked if we're one of the local areas that picked up 6-8" yesterday.<BR/><BR/>Happy days-getting-longer! It's been a very different kind of solstice, to be sure.JewelyaZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434569437851248356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-10876542710140510512008-12-22T00:56:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:56:00.000-08:00UW suspends operations on all campuses tomorrow. D...UW suspends operations on all campuses tomorrow. Darn, Cliff won't be at work! hahaDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250211374330416889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-52187798950280280792008-12-22T00:41:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:41:00.000-08:00About four inches of new snow today in Union Mills...About four inches of new snow today in Union Mills, and 27.9F at the moment; today's high was 31F. Still, cold, and dim all day; made photographing the quail that came to eat under the feeder rather tricky. Never had a solstice I was more glad to have behind me.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06397280780305231736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90789977739893394252008-12-22T00:39:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:39:00.000-08:00Report from Sammamish: 12:32AM Light snow, 28.5 de...Report from Sammamish: 12:32AM Light snow, 28.5 degrees. On top of the paper thin layer of freezing rain is about 5 inches of snow, underneath the freezing rain layer is 5 or 6 inches. At least a foot on the ground, the wind event last night and the blowing snow really causes amounts to vary between 10 and 18 inches on the ground. I haven't seen anything like this since the 1996 storm. I am in awe of the power of mother nature! Great blog Cliff!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-73680765743836039832008-12-22T00:34:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:34:00.000-08:00Look at that satellite photo!That big tail from th...Look at that satellite photo!<BR/><BR/>That big tail from the Bering Sea is headed this way! <BR/><BR/>Here's my prediction: much more of the beautiful white stuff. Seeing an animation would give us a good idea of when it's going to get here.<BR/><BR/>The biggest advances in Meteorology have come through data collection, most importantly, satellite photos.<BR/><BR/>The so-called models that try to analyze the data are still, at best, primitive and leave a lot to be desired. Eye-balling pictures is often more accurate.<BR/><BR/>BTW, can we move the local weather reports to another area? They might be useful, but they shouldn't be mixed with discussion. Do we really want to read hundreds of messages a day about 2 or 3 inches of snow in various places?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-52478292052141032512008-12-22T00:18:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:18:00.000-08:00If you work for the federal government in the Seat...If you work for the federal government in the Seattle area, you don't have to go into work on Monday, per the Seattle Federal Executive Board's announcement Sunday night.<BR/><BR/>Wish we could get a heads-up on whether garbage & recycling will be picked up on Monday in LFP. I'd hate to drag my bins up the driveway through the snow, only to drag them back down again still full if the trucks don't make it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-7990727676476704812008-12-22T00:07:00.000-08:002008-12-22T00:07:00.000-08:00Nice mention on the front page of NYTIMES.com, Cli...Nice mention on the front page of NYTIMES.com, Cliff...<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great blog. You've given all of us junkies who just got over fivethirtyeight.com a new addiction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-65125170769053330482008-12-21T23:27:00.000-08:002008-12-21T23:27:00.000-08:00By the time you get to work, if you get to work, i...By the time you get to work, if you get to work, it will be time to go home. You've never had a better excuse to ditch work Go for it, stay home and enjoy the peace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-72404139505687645502008-12-21T23:25:00.000-08:002008-12-21T23:25:00.000-08:00Out here on the Key Peninsula, where no weather fo...Out here on the Key Peninsula, where no weather forecaster ever mentions, we have had snow steady all day. Here near the beach, the tree branches are very heavy with snow. Branches have bent down to the point of blocking our 1/4 mile driveway at several places. Hopefully they won't break off overnight. <BR/><BR/>The power went off here for 4 hours this PM. A branch took out a line just up the road. The Power Co. truck got stuck on the road and required a big tow truck to free it. <BR/><BR/>The snow is heavy. A shovel full is about 35 lbs. and so I took all the snow from our 2nd story deck as a precaution. The wet snow full of rain would be a disaster waiting to happen. Its 33 deg. F.<BR/><BR/>Thankfully we have a good woodstove with ample dry wood. But we have been going through it a pretty steady pace this past week. I guess it makes up for the very mild November.<BR/><BR/>Our accumulation since yesterday exceeds 10" now. The road into our place is deeper and has not been plowed, so there is no way to get the car out even with chains. Tomorrow will be a lot of interesting outdoor work! <BR/><BR/>Everybody be safe.Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-5245595942647577342008-12-21T23:23:00.000-08:002008-12-21T23:23:00.000-08:00Nobody I know is going to work. Too dangerous to ...Nobody I know is going to work. Too dangerous to venture out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-49450691888009017832008-12-21T23:19:00.000-08:002008-12-21T23:19:00.000-08:00So who is going to work tomorrow? I'm scared to d...So who is going to work tomorrow? I'm scared to drive in this weather!Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16129333850136703115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-44685540355702573292008-12-21T23:06:00.000-08:002008-12-21T23:06:00.000-08:00Snowing steady since neoon on the west hill of Ken...Snowing steady since neoon on the west hill of Kent, just below I-5. We can get out with chains, and took some stranded friends home to Tacoma from the airport (they are tring to get to Phoenix). Since my 'rents from Minnesota probably won't get here, we'll have the Tpcoma friends here instead. <BR/><BR/>Didn't the game just look like Green Bay? - snow, Farve, Holmgren etc...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-65934101019004770602008-12-21T22:50:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:50:00.000-08:00Hmmmmm, just looked at the NWS forecast for this w...Hmmmmm, just looked at the NWS forecast for this week, looks like the snow may all wash away on Wednesday night/Thursday?! I guess it depends on how reliable the 36* high is.Jamie on BIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17449565919153636386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-4816196085279910432008-12-21T22:45:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:45:00.000-08:00On Bainbridge: Total on our deck now is nearly 10...On Bainbridge: Total on our deck now is nearly 10" First major power outage hit the island around 6 pm, got the Safeway complex and the neighbors up the street, but not us. Cable's out though. Thanks heavens we're still running a DSL line this month!<BR/><BR/>I <I>love</I> the way the trees look at night in the snow! Just gorgeous.Jamie on BIhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17449565919153636386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-8206547743259932012008-12-21T22:39:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:39:00.000-08:00Phantom Lake/Bellevue at 210' elevation has 6" of ...Phantom Lake/Bellevue at 210' elevation has 6" of new snow today (well, since noon anyway, and it was snowing before then too but that's when I cleared off the deck railing). It's 30.7F here and STILL snowing. <BR/><BR/>I don't have to go to work tomorrow since I always work from home but I hope most people don't even attempt Bellevue streets. They were bad enough yesterday afternoon when we came home from Crossroads and the grocery store (1.6 miles away) and since then we've had about 8" of snow and 1/3" of ice added during a brief spell above freezing this morning.<BR/><BR/>Cliff, any guess when we'll melt down to bare ground again? What I've seen makes it look like there could be some thawing in the afternoons, but the overnight temps make refreeze the obvious risk. It looks like the long-range is calling for balmy 40s and rain next weekend... would you agree with that based on what you're seeing? I have to admit, 42 and rain sounds really, really lovely.JewelyaZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434569437851248356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-79231960220487909732008-12-21T22:38:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:38:00.000-08:00Happy Solstice to One and All! Perfect weather for...Happy Solstice to One and All! Perfect weather for a Solstice! We have 4 new inches of snow on the deck in NW Enumclaw! Cleaned the deck at 3pm so there ya go and the snow is still falling. We're around 800ft elevation. I'm so glad it's light fluffy stuff and not freezing rain as the husband works for PSE and wouldn't see him for weeks if otherwise. Count your/our blessings.<BR/>Cliff, listened for YEARs thanks for the blog! Fulfills the weather geek in us.Jeanettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15966572980520236635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77932182837544709302008-12-21T22:15:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:15:00.000-08:00Bothell, 300 ft elev:3" new snow in the areas I sh...Bothell, 300 ft elev:<BR/><BR/>3" new snow in the areas I shoveled at 11 am, for a total of 13". Still snowing steadily, but it seems wetter than before.<BR/><BR/>I haven't been out of the house since Wednesday, but the good thing is that I'm cleaning the food out of my freezer. <BR/><BR/>I'm getting kind of antsy to get back to work, but it won't happen tomorrow I'm afraid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-50894441564364985962008-12-21T22:03:00.000-08:002008-12-21T22:03:00.000-08:00Mt. Baker neighborhood in Seattle- 11 inches total...Mt. Baker neighborhood in Seattle- <BR/><BR/>11 inches total accumulation of snow on the plastic table left out since summer; no doubt some of that compacted and some blown off. <BR/><BR/>I chained up my car for the commute tomorrow; the belly of my Honda Civic now touches the snow piled between the ruts made by wheels. <BR/><BR/>The tiny wet flakes melt fast on the windshield. There is wind (maybe from the southeast? I can't tell) for the first time, started several hours ago.<BR/><BR/>Perfect skiing; Trumpeter swan family seen earlier swimming in Lake Washington.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com