tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post4614517215035316768..comments2024-03-28T10:16:44.231-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: TV WeathercastersCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-53438298157842351922010-10-13T10:56:01.405-07:002010-10-13T10:56:01.405-07:00http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson767.html - some...http://survivingtheworld.net/Lesson767.html - some great names for "Severe Weather."Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07649420272387984400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-85277216395873366432010-10-07T16:13:02.030-07:002010-10-07T16:13:02.030-07:00@Jim, re: the cartooning weathermen.
Now you'...@Jim, re: the cartooning weathermen.<br /><br />Now you've made me all nostalgic...<br />Who could forget Onshore Flo?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06526028190661675807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-48270823109023579822010-10-07T11:34:59.438-07:002010-10-07T11:34:59.438-07:00I have to second the comment about Harold Taft in ...I have to second the comment about Harold Taft in Fort Worth. Anyone who grew up watching his forecasts on WBAP is a committed weather geek for life. He respected the intelligence of his viewers and listeners and taught us all some science, every day.SteveMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12404357720827535271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-21090839045244091892010-10-06T12:37:33.969-07:002010-10-06T12:37:33.969-07:00In our family, the media over-hype about incoming ...In our family, the media over-hype about incoming "severe weather" locally is known as "Forman-in-a-Parka", as in: "There's only a 20% chance of snow, but they've already gotten all Forman-in-a-Parka about it."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00673343528664342170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-83112321742111140752010-10-06T11:03:14.031-07:002010-10-06T11:03:14.031-07:00Cliff,
Just wanted to pass along a link to a typi...Cliff,<br /><br />Just wanted to pass along a link to a typical article (or news cast) that illustrates so well how the news style approach to weather so often makes statements which are completely groundless scientifically.<br /><br />I was sent this link and it struck me as being very over the top trying to 'scare' people while mis-stating several facts. I think this really highlights the problem with the weather 'news' in general.<br /><br />http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/oct/04/get-ready-for-a-nasty-winter-experts-warn/<br /><br />We really need to get people like the PSE spokesman, Andy Wappler, to have a clue what they are talking about before they make bold statements about weather prognostication.<br /><br />Anyway, as an scientist I just thought you would appreciate the artistic license evident in this 'news' piece!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00309371766562695547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-38593326483382073292010-10-05T19:31:37.382-07:002010-10-05T19:31:37.382-07:00Komo's duo of Steve Pool on camera and Scott &...Komo's duo of Steve Pool on camera and Scott 'behind the scenes' works really well - They are by far my favorite weather team. Like you mentioned, Shannon O'Donnel is grat as well, but she also works for KOMO - not king. If I'm right, she originally worked at Kiro, before moving elsewhere and only recently returned this year to Seattle.Nicholashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14631929910370919007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-523094361572355122010-10-05T17:34:30.905-07:002010-10-05T17:34:30.905-07:00Give me Ray Ramsey, his chalk and his circulating ...Give me Ray Ramsey, his chalk and his circulating box and I'll be happy. What I liked about Ray was that he was always hoping for that perfect snow scenario (arctic front + ample ocean moisture) so he would always spend time speculating on what might or might not happen. For a kid who wanted the same, he was speaking to the choir!Soupmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05160499749082498866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-67931785795909829432010-10-05T11:22:26.586-07:002010-10-05T11:22:26.586-07:00Cliff ~ The NOAA and others are really talking up ...Cliff ~ The NOAA and others are really talking up the upcoming winter. They are making it sound like it's going to be worse than 2008/2009, the one in the 50's and the 70's combined. When you discussed in in your post a couple of weeks ago you said there is the potential but didn't go crazy like everyone else seems to be. What's your take? Are they going overboard on all the warnings or is there some new data out there that wasn't available a couple of weeks ago?windloverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06944033579068806230noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-22375016913680850932010-10-04T20:18:17.598-07:002010-10-04T20:18:17.598-07:00Why did probcast have so much trouble with tempera...Why did probcast have so much trouble with temperature predictions during the very cold weeks we had last winter?Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12864018629153743812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-61497426529179202012010-10-04T10:42:19.817-07:002010-10-04T10:42:19.817-07:00Scott and Steve on KOMO are the best. Jim Foreman...Scott and Steve on KOMO are the best. Jim Foreman makes me squirm, and I can't trust Jeff with his "additional 5 days". Ugh!Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00177443374751333878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-35050686647608474612010-10-04T10:32:15.121-07:002010-10-04T10:32:15.121-07:00You said "A maddening aspect of the TV weathe...You said "A maddening aspect of the TV weather business is the weather hype that news directors seem to think as mandatory."<br /><br />Just today, both the papers are hyping big time the expected severity of the coming winter. Is this hype, or is this something we should take seriously and prepare for assiduously?Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02487693248816810787noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-58307093001087835632010-10-04T08:52:02.438-07:002010-10-04T08:52:02.438-07:00What is meant by "strong-range forecasting&qu...What is meant by "strong-range forecasting"? Was "long-range forecasting" intended?Lindseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06672849934921996050noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-82111111999403196302010-10-04T04:02:44.331-07:002010-10-04T04:02:44.331-07:00Portland is also lucky to have Mark Nelsen (among ...Portland is also lucky to have Mark Nelsen (among others)! The guy knows his stuff, and it's a major plus that he's also really, truly interested in meteorology (a weather geek of the highest caliber).Michael Gosshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01829847179425933623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-33946692741222824012010-10-03T21:26:26.830-07:002010-10-03T21:26:26.830-07:00As a meteorologist who traveled pretty widely acro...As a meteorologist who traveled pretty widely across the country during the past 15 years while working locally in the air quality "biz" I can attest that the collective skill and reliability of the weather teams serving the Puget Sound TV market is far and away better than I have observed in any other similar market. This includes DC, New York, Chicago. In fact those markets are really lacking in my view.<br />While I think this is testimony to the professionalism of the local TV Meteorologists and Weather Broadcasters it is also apparent the we all benefit from the best NWS forecast Office in the country. Just travel around the country a read the various forecast discussions from other NWS forecast offices. They really need some work compared to the Seattle team. And of course then there is Cliff.......... <br /><br />I have just relocated to Monterey CA for another position and will just say I have not yet developed a taste for the local TV weather forecasters. Sigh!<br /><br />With La Nina getting in gear later this winter I will depend on seeing Jim Foreman strapped to the roof of the Space Needle in hurricane force wind and blinding rain.mjgrotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10752674147894791628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-13998820153291276672010-10-03T20:44:31.687-07:002010-10-03T20:44:31.687-07:00Hmm... sounds like maybe... John Coleman?
I could ...Hmm... sounds like maybe... John Coleman?<br />I could never figure that guy out or what makes him tick. Especially when he crows about how Global Warming is a fraud and tries to explain it with a bunch of "Psychobabble"nonsense. And as far as I know, he doesn't even have a degree in Atmospheric Science or Meteorology, nor is he certified by the AMS.<br />Enough said.LorbeerTLChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745856465096927679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77787705112050081762010-10-03T20:22:11.929-07:002010-10-03T20:22:11.929-07:00Cliff,
Maybe a few of your readers will remember t...Cliff,<br />Maybe a few of your readers will remember the amazing cartooning weathermen on King 5 - Bob Hale and Bob Cram. I remember watching them on our black & white Zenith in the 50's and 60's. Hale drew "Ol' Sol" for the sunny days and a shivering seagull for the rainy ones. My dad would say we had a 50/50 chance of getting the forecast weather. I just tried copying the cartoon pictures they drew live on the news each evening. It was fun. Who took weather forecasting seriously then, anyway!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11637221795080802212010-10-03T20:01:31.191-07:002010-10-03T20:01:31.191-07:00Highly entertaining & educational post! I do ...Highly entertaining & educational post! I do not have a television and would much rather rely on my experience and observation (educated by weather stats and info from meteorologists) at least for the local weather. Yes, snow hysteria is quite a phenomenon around here, about on the level of Yeti sightings...Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01222116653360570878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-81188207729598416712010-10-03T17:34:56.355-07:002010-10-03T17:34:56.355-07:00Clumsy Sunday tweeting: Admittedly Cliff Mass fans...Clumsy Sunday tweeting: Admittedly Cliff Mass fans, Jim and I were just discussing TV weather yesterday: http://cliffmass.blogspot.com/ and great illustrations!<br />(@odaraia)Alice Dubielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13771652560070929717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-10364931178091033662010-10-03T16:30:35.340-07:002010-10-03T16:30:35.340-07:00When I was a child in Fort Worth, TX, my family wa...When I was a child in Fort Worth, TX, my family watched Harold Taft's weather forecast on the evening news every night. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Taft for biographical info.) For me, he set the bar against which other TV meteorologists are judged, and few measure up to his standard.<br /><br />Harold seemed to truly love sharing his weather knowledge with the public. If he was alive and working today, I think he would write a blog similar to this one.keithmohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15543160493854014802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-49855160624927579812010-10-03T13:10:44.582-07:002010-10-03T13:10:44.582-07:00I was at your talk in Bellingham last night, Cliff...I was at your talk in Bellingham last night, Cliff, and I really enjoyed it. The only issue I had was you always mentioned global warming as something to come in the future, rather than something that is already happening. We are seeing major extreme events that are most likely exacerbated by current climate change. In my opinion.DJanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07152183871573797791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-17947520121321796752010-10-03T12:53:12.406-07:002010-10-03T12:53:12.406-07:00For personality alone, you can't beat Q13'...For personality alone, you can't beat Q13's Walter Kelly. The guy is a kook and a chatterbox. And he's very much in love with the weather. It's all very personal to him.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01853420214676623959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-88590804721241827512010-10-03T10:37:51.638-07:002010-10-03T10:37:51.638-07:00As an aside:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJdeo...As an aside:<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJdeoDAncLkDennis Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16257272622416604133noreply@blogger.com