tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post7000943484983669953..comments2024-03-18T22:50:29.792-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Bogus Arguments of Some Global Warming "Skeptics"Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-52797308113323785402011-08-21T14:44:15.207-07:002011-08-21T14:44:15.207-07:00The fact that big eruptions don't impact the K...The fact that big eruptions don't impact the Keeling Curve (carbon dioxide levels, month-to-month) is further proof they aren't the cause. They actually slow the rise. See http://climate.envsci.rutgers.edu/pdf/VEAChapter1_Robocknew.pdfJ.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06791321866787259718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-3370386882567633642011-08-20T13:57:09.136-07:002011-08-20T13:57:09.136-07:00Hmm... I thought weather and climate are both cov...Hmm... I thought weather and climate are both covered by atmospheric science--as in Cliff Mass, Professor of Atmospheric Sciences. <br /><br />Personally, I find it a good thing when Prof. Cliff seeks to shed light upon political issues that touch upon his field of expertise. The public needs voices like his to balance against the pundits, the politicians and so-called scientists on the corporate dole. The amount of stupid-bad stuff out there is staggering.<br /><br />BTW, this is Cliff's personal blog. What he posts is his business. We're just here for the ride.Dave Eriksenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07473264237163648061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77413888157292415832011-08-18T20:19:54.603-07:002011-08-18T20:19:54.603-07:00Hey Jeff B,
Give us all one simple example how C...Hey Jeff B, <br /><br />Give us all one simple example how CO2 has negative feedback.<br /><br />Just one is all I ask.Michael Snyderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06230219537755848399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-3718293346653224082011-08-18T19:56:33.373-07:002011-08-18T19:56:33.373-07:00Cliff, let me urge you to stand down from Global W...Cliff, let me urge you to stand down from Global Warming debates. Please don't get wrapped around the axle on this issue, there are plenty of warmer and denier blogs that have your back.<br /><br />I read your blog because you focus on the weather, and weather does not equal climate. I come here for the science, I come here because you're local, and I come here because you use models for weather forecasting. I appreciate your focus in this area.<br /><br />Rock On!Johannes Rexxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03456790971750311680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-7808903841625285352011-08-18T13:26:42.076-07:002011-08-18T13:26:42.076-07:00The other point to rebutting this nonsense is that...The other point to rebutting this nonsense is that most "natural" CO2, such as from volcanoes, is balanced out by absorption from other natural processes. <br /><br />Human emissions are on top of these natural emissions, and natural absorption cannot balance out the equation.Douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13400304542602805292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-61906283204346427482011-08-18T12:46:57.038-07:002011-08-18T12:46:57.038-07:00Or how about this one from Bitz and Armour at UW. ...Or how about this one from Bitz and Armour at UW. It shows there is no "tipping point" for Arctic Ice induced by warmer climate swings. <br /><br />http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2011-08/uow-msp081711.php<br /><br />No wonder the public is not buying the use of massive economy shifting measures for doomsday climate scenarios.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059221822159483655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-55692054567011055932011-08-18T12:38:39.855-07:002011-08-18T12:38:39.855-07:00There are plenty of better reasons to be skeptical...There are plenty of better reasons to be skeptical of CO2 warming. Like this new paper from Lindzen and Choi which will be published in the APJAS. The paper uses empirical data, not models to show the range of warming is much less than the GCMs predict and that CO2 in fact has a negative feedback.<br />http://www-eaps.mit.edu/faculty/lindzen/236-Lindzen-Choi-2011.pdfJeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059221822159483655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-70476014008098111102011-08-18T01:51:56.247-07:002011-08-18T01:51:56.247-07:00But isn't true that SO2 emitted from volcanism...But isn't true that SO2 emitted from volcanism has a balancing or reversing effect upon climate change?Brad J Tankersleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01883768653250436181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-63096933836276026712011-08-17T22:39:04.983-07:002011-08-17T22:39:04.983-07:00If Rick Perry is elected president, I'm moving...If Rick Perry is elected president, I'm moving to Canada...Stu Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04625837156635715865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-54213100334069978792011-08-17T17:42:34.112-07:002011-08-17T17:42:34.112-07:00I believe CO2 emissions from cattle and sheep are ...I believe CO2 emissions from cattle and sheep are included with other anthropogenic sources, since the huge population of these animals is clearly linked to human activities.<br /><br />Cliff, thank you for trying to educate people (on all sides!) about what is fact, what is fiction, and what is unknown with regards to global warming. I think it's important people admit bad science is bad science, whether it supports their side of the argument or not.Westside guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07171473508596734156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-58464399853332449142011-08-17T15:35:16.275-07:002011-08-17T15:35:16.275-07:00I couldn't help but notice a bit of a jump in ...I couldn't help but notice a bit of a jump in 1951-52...the year Rush Limbaugh was born. ;-)Rrrnayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18216271967464113714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90229533800332151572011-08-17T14:59:31.771-07:002011-08-17T14:59:31.771-07:00Here is a link to the data Cliff mentioned in his ...Here is a link to the data Cliff mentioned in his blog post: http://www.agu.org/pubs/pdf/2011EO240001.pdfUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232534453682520266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-12638288173621543232011-08-17T14:58:35.509-07:002011-08-17T14:58:35.509-07:00Here's the link to the data Cliff mentioned: h...Here's the link to the data Cliff mentioned: http://www.agu.org/pubs/pdf/2011EO240001.pdfUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232534453682520266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-23767520614776810502011-08-17T14:42:23.544-07:002011-08-17T14:42:23.544-07:00But wait, why should we trust meteorologists and a...But wait, why should we trust meteorologists and atmospheric scientists with PhD's and support staffs with budgets of millions of dollars who spend their entire life researching climate change when we can just listen to Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh who just seem to make so much sense with their "gut feelings" and "intuition" on the subject instead?!Lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14119121675943204095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-83205761696616749512011-08-17T13:30:50.178-07:002011-08-17T13:30:50.178-07:00And now we have presidential candidates claiming a...And now we have presidential candidates claiming all you scientists are on the take and making this stuff up for buck. <br /><br />How can we have a modern, successful society when potential national leaders so thoroughly misunderstand the scientific process?Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11108864457874688399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-48016087422021170252011-08-17T13:21:55.618-07:002011-08-17T13:21:55.618-07:00Can you please analyze the effect of cattle produc...Can you please analyze the effect of cattle production too? I get all kinds of people saying that cows put more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere than people.bradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08446559369990216386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-29924700998571741262011-08-17T12:58:37.518-07:002011-08-17T12:58:37.518-07:00Thanks for publicizing this fact, Cliff. I've ...Thanks for publicizing this fact, Cliff. I've seen this claim many times and the EOS article clearly debunks it.Brendanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16791790211602663270noreply@blogger.com