tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post1736593122413663499..comments2024-03-28T10:16:44.231-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Seattle's Worst 24h Air Quality on RecordCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90530815576363745832018-08-20T09:21:48.891-07:002018-08-20T09:21:48.891-07:00lol ppl still askin questions like they gonna get ...lol ppl still askin questions like they gonna get an answer. Liberals. SmhAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-29826264235796569582018-08-17T06:06:52.178-07:002018-08-17T06:06:52.178-07:00Cliff-
I was looking at the radar this morning an...Cliff-<br /><br />I was looking at the radar this morning and am seeing precipitation showing up east of the cascades from Quincy and Wenatchee north up to Omak and also down in southeast Washington, some of it heavy(oranges and even reds). There is absolutely nothing in the forecast about this. Is there any chance the smoke is causing the radar to think there is precipitation? Thanks for your time!Thecatguy93https://www.blogger.com/profile/06460566697745890845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-39491531259928392412018-08-16T18:01:15.644-07:002018-08-16T18:01:15.644-07:00You have to remember that we are coming out of sev...You have to remember that we are coming out of several decades of air quality improvement, thanks to the EPA. I remember visiting LA in the 1960's and the air was yellow and thick with unburned hydrocarbons and tetraethyl lead. The highways smelled like a chemical factory and made me sick. It was scary, and it was like that a lot of the time. <br /><br />But the focus on improving air quality, driven most of the time by both political parties, is now giving way to partisan politics where one party believes we've made everything too clean, at too high a cost. <br /><br />So between AGW catching up with us and a deliberate attempt to degrade the air quality protections we've enjoyed, the clock is potentially going to be turned partially backward. <br /><br />While smoke from forest fires is no way as bad as that lead-saturated hydrocarbon stew from unburned gasoline and too many cars, and the causes are very different. we are for the first time in real danger of going back to a less clean and less healthy past. <br /><br />This wood smoke is just a wake-up call that other kinds of pollutants could also increase if we rolled back regulations. What is bizarre that right when we are on the threshold of renewable energy dominance and electric cars, the government decides to turn back. <br /><br />I swear some people have a self-destructive gene. Sort of like being one knock-out blow away from winning a war, and then deciding to heck with it and going home. <br /><br /><br />Johnamarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17737399978789523366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-30926891858820986672018-08-16T13:28:26.158-07:002018-08-16T13:28:26.158-07:00We just spent the past week in the San Juan island...We just spent the past week in the San Juan islands where it’s smoky, but NOTHING like seattle. As soon as we came into the city I started feeling sick (I’m not in good health) coughing, horrible migraines, eyes hurting, and nausea. Not sure if anyone else is experiencing these symptoms... I’ve lived in Seattle my entire life and have never seen anything like the skyline (or lack thereof) before. Benji https://www.blogger.com/profile/11372575492049452320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-22532256117466446652018-08-16T10:51:43.471-07:002018-08-16T10:51:43.471-07:00I've never seen so much smoke hovering around ...I've never seen so much smoke hovering around my place NE of Arlington, WA. I drove 27 miles up to Darrington, WA yesterday thinking it might be better at a higher elevation. Boy, was I wrong! Darrington surrounded by the Cascades, and at the foot of Whitehorse Mountain was a smoke bowl. Smoke so thick that I could not even see Whitehorse Mountain that looms above the town. I am sensitive to this smoke, but how can you stay indoors for this long? Impossible!BJ Rosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16198376257206575354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9013417321576931042018-08-16T10:19:35.151-07:002018-08-16T10:19:35.151-07:00Cliff I love your blog, I moved from Seattle to Ph...Cliff I love your blog, I moved from Seattle to Phoenix but I still observe your blog out of curiosity... Is there a Cliff Mass counterpart in Phoenix area that has a detailed blog like you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14318835887625697839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-19023275252763775712018-08-16T08:52:24.238-07:002018-08-16T08:52:24.238-07:00Having grown up in the Willamette Valley during th...Having grown up in the Willamette Valley during the era of grass seed field burning, I'd say that was worse:<br />https://www.oregonlive.com/data/2015/02/smoky_21-vehicle_pileup_kills.html<br />also, see "Black Tuesday", 8/9/1969.<br /><br />But it's pretty bad these last two summers...Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12403409992341030255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-36360063831151810732018-08-16T07:59:59.367-07:002018-08-16T07:59:59.367-07:00Great blog post and really interesting to see this...Great blog post and really interesting to see this year and last compared to the last 20 or so. Yeah, it was really bad back in the late 80's and early 90's when you could only see downtown from the Safeco tower through a thick haze (I had a window office on the 18 floor), but our air has been so much cleaner over most of the last 20 years. Air is better this morning here (Thursday) near Fauntleroy , but the smoke is still up above us here.<br /><br />Another good resource for more localized air quality is the PurpleAir.com map. Like PWS, it is personal air monitoring equipment that is a bit more scattered around. I look at it and PSCAA maps to get a better overall picture. I may have to add one to my PWS station if this is going to be a yearly thing for us now.JordanPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03512504026479840683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-64164705549504172182018-08-16T05:23:59.173-07:002018-08-16T05:23:59.173-07:00Port Angeles hovered around 240 much of Weds. I di...Port Angeles hovered around 240 much of Weds. I discovered I'm in a sensitive group.Richardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18412411532260194366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-76832583221593149062018-08-15T23:56:39.131-07:002018-08-15T23:56:39.131-07:00Globally there aren't more fires, but up here ...Globally there aren't more fires, but up here in BC we have seen a major uptick in fires since the 1990s. 2017 was the worst year on record, and 2018 is already the 2nd worst year since 1958. Here is a map I created showing the long term trend... https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10156281002466628&id=540661627Junahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794483429474459389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-84176829861893756332018-08-15T19:51:33.070-07:002018-08-15T19:51:33.070-07:00I'm remembering the 60s and the 80s and I say ...I'm remembering the 60s and the 80s and I say no way for the worst at anytime of year. Not even close to winter inversions in the bad air days of before Cliff Mass.Mike DeMarcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09400442143371833282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-40661768003985342862018-08-15T19:27:42.846-07:002018-08-15T19:27:42.846-07:00I haven't breathed air this bad since growing ...I haven't breathed air this bad since growing up in New Jersey in the 1960s. :-(mark_a_onthetrailhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11097678106508498876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11470955838748364282018-08-15T18:00:55.413-07:002018-08-15T18:00:55.413-07:00Mention is made of wildfires burning in "Brit...Mention is made of wildfires burning in "British Columbia, California and eastern Washington" but not Oregon. Most of the highest AQIs in the country are in Southern Oregon and all the smoke down here comes from local fires. We are in a truly apocalyptic situation down here in the Rogue Valley.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03079755425439375675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-89414682499752904722018-08-15T16:49:15.711-07:002018-08-15T16:49:15.711-07:00Not seeing the ash fall of last summer here in nor...Not seeing the ash fall of last summer here in north Whatcom County, and yet the air quality seems worse. Very dense and definitely disaffecting. This is the first time in my life as a Western Washingtonian that I've suffered from air quality. Pretty depressing. <br /><br />(Btw, Charles, I was out your way recently and it was definitely greener, and the air cleaner. But rest assured this region has plenty of "marauding urban deer".) <br />Colleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16635233372638773800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-64786490602348851092018-08-15T16:29:54.706-07:002018-08-15T16:29:54.706-07:00I've lived in the Seattle area for 25+ years, ...I've lived in the Seattle area for 25+ years, and never experienced smoke events as bad as this year and 2017. The data you quote seem to agree with my memory!<br /><br />A previous blog explained that there aren't, in fact, more/larger fires in recent years compared to historical norms (at least in CA). <br /><br />What do you think accounts for the recent worsening of the smoke situation? More fires in BC? Change in weather patterns? Random variability/too early to tell?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06879148846913499761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-55969637154328111112018-08-15T14:53:12.744-07:002018-08-15T14:53:12.744-07:00Yes. Deer are equivalent to wild fire smoke that i...Yes. Deer are equivalent to wild fire smoke that is a serious health threat to kids, elderly and those with health conditions.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08022250577734567082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-72584733404296194852018-08-15T14:08:45.174-07:002018-08-15T14:08:45.174-07:00Why is this not taking into account historical dat...Why is this not taking into account historical data from PSCAA? https://komonews.com/weather/scotts-weather-blog/think-the-air-quality-is-bad-now-you-should-have-seen-the-1980sEmily Pfeiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681724874487735677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-59577632782693580102018-08-15T13:48:14.860-07:002018-08-15T13:48:14.860-07:00Thank you for going to trouble of gathering the in...Thank you for going to trouble of gathering the information, and presenting it so clearly. I'd hoped to go out on Lake Washington today with a friend, but now I think not.<br /><br />David SummersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09533471466918607544noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-18410992227152031532018-08-15T13:06:54.995-07:002018-08-15T13:06:54.995-07:00We were 5k feet up in the Olympics over the last f...We were 5k feet up in the Olympics over the last few days on a backpack and I thought the smoke was coming from a nearby forest fire since it was so bad. Thankfully, it did not seem to impact our hiking abilities at that height. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03341278806699414407noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-66598094680145023862018-08-15T12:22:42.886-07:002018-08-15T12:22:42.886-07:00Glad I live in Cleveland where the air is clean th...Glad I live in Cleveland where the air is clean these days. Right now I am sitting out in the yard in comfortable temperatures and enjoying summer life. It is not all perfect, though. As I write this I am observing one of the large marauding herds of urban deer which are almost as bad as forest fires. These deer are the size of heifers, eat everything, and are not about to go back to the nearby forest where they would have to work a lot harder for their food. The only vegetation left in the forest is trees that are too big for the deer to eat. Seattle may have dirty air, but at least you don't have marauding herds of urban deer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00848160410052875045noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-76354087741232333882018-08-15T11:26:43.978-07:002018-08-15T11:26:43.978-07:00Cliff, I'm not able to see it on the forecasti...Cliff, I'm not able to see it on the forecasting sites yet - but have you seen any signs beyond Thursday for the smoke blowing out yet?Dennis The Tigerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05097657346247445228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-2222834852199264602018-08-15T11:05:57.055-07:002018-08-15T11:05:57.055-07:00yesterday WA had all 5 of the Highest 5 on AirNow,...yesterday WA had all 5 of the Highest 5 on AirNow, a dubious honor as the Highes 5 are the places with the worst air quality IN THE COUNTRY. Wenatchee took top honors as the worst. But it was, as Cliff noted pretty awful on this side of the mountains too.Ellen Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05310442085278437157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-60950819177453095212018-08-15T10:49:04.323-07:002018-08-15T10:49:04.323-07:00Out in Forks, my smoke alarm kept going off. That ...Out in Forks, my smoke alarm kept going off. That never happens unless I'm trying to cook something.Willy4castrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01030505141624800454noreply@blogger.com