tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post2985792358075545595..comments2024-03-28T23:07:35.632-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Storms of the Pacific MuseumCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-57813838819407794792009-04-01T10:36:00.000-07:002009-04-01T10:36:00.000-07:00I love the idea of a museum dedicated to the fury ...I love the idea of a museum dedicated to the fury of our local weather. As an architect I find immense potential in creating a building that would allow one to learn about and experience the elements that we all find so intereting. I have some ideas, so if the idea begins to take root I would be honored if you gave me a call to help with siting and initial concepts.<BR/>Keep up the good work on the blog.<BR/>Daren Doss<BR/>chadbournedoss.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13862785663354314402noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-22734980347933690892009-03-31T18:50:00.000-07:002009-03-31T18:50:00.000-07:00Not sure if the tourism folks really want to highl...Not sure if the tourism folks really want to highlight "bad" weather realities that occur in our coastal communities. At least you won't have to struggle about a name for the food court in the place. RADAR CAFE ....mjgrotahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10752674147894791628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-82974603041514158472009-03-31T17:49:00.000-07:002009-03-31T17:49:00.000-07:00Great ideaGreat ideaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-26204413974895214112009-03-31T12:59:00.000-07:002009-03-31T12:59:00.000-07:00Cliff,Any comments on the insane wind speeds up at...Cliff,<BR/><BR/>Any comments on the insane wind speeds up at Camp Muir on Rainer today? 125 max gust at 800 hours, with a minimum of 81mph and an average of 100mph -- is that common for that location?MBeebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06989291623192829581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-60604806822744511382009-03-31T00:11:00.000-07:002009-03-31T00:11:00.000-07:00June and July will be warmer than normal? Last I r...June and July will be warmer than normal? Last I read(last week) that la-nina may continue through month of May then perhaps going netural think it was. So not sure that will contribute warmer than normal temps around here.andycottlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696751462397354299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-72268539490353169882009-03-30T22:50:00.000-07:002009-03-30T22:50:00.000-07:00CPC on the NWS website has been showing cooler tha...CPC on the NWS website has been showing cooler than normal temps for quite some time now. They had December thru April cooler than normal. They predict in 3 month increments with months overlapping and show April/May/June and May/June/July as being cooler than normal. If I remember correctly, they have been showing this for a long time now. Sure feels like they have been on target, huh? :)WeatherNerdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03905391619197657520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-46676335292520613792009-03-30T22:24:00.000-07:002009-03-30T22:24:00.000-07:00off topic a little:Q13/Fox weather lady said tonig...off topic a little:<BR/>Q13/Fox weather lady said tonight that western WA April will trend cooler than normal. June and July will be warmer than normal. She said it was because of ocean temperatures. Any comments?Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77892512320075404172009-03-30T22:11:00.000-07:002009-03-30T22:11:00.000-07:00Here's the local Tofino, BC web site's take on the...Here's the local Tofino, BC web site's take on the local weather:<BR/>"Tofino Weather Station, located at the Long Beach Airport"<BR/>Locals say, stand outside and face north to Lone Cone Mountain on Meares Island. If you cannot see Lone Cone, it’s raining. If you can see Lone Cone that means it’s about to rain. Beyond that, call Tofino’s weather station and a “real human” will tell you the forecast during regular business hours. Locals will also tell you, there's no such thing as bad weather, only bad clothing choices.<BR/>Phone the Weather Station: 250-725-3384"Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-20096883835022925222009-03-30T19:21:00.000-07:002009-03-30T19:21:00.000-07:00BC is way ahead of you. Well, they don't have a s...BC is way ahead of you. Well, they don't have a storm museum (though the West Coast Trail amounts to a shipwreck tour of sorts) but the hotels and restaurants around Tofino have been promoting <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?q=tofino+winter+storm+watching" REL="nofollow">winter storm tourism</A> for many years now.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11375171158478577713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-88334963254740804592009-03-30T18:59:00.000-07:002009-03-30T18:59:00.000-07:00Great idea. When I was a kid in the late 50's/earl...Great idea. When I was a kid in the late 50's/early 60's our family camped at Kalaloch every Thanksgiving weekend and we witnessed some terrific storms. That was a highlight of each trip, but sometimes they made getting back to Seattle a little challenging with trees down across Hwy 101.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18439623595822469427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-34449985086315956652009-03-30T18:47:00.000-07:002009-03-30T18:47:00.000-07:00well cliff, this goes along with an idea i've had ...well cliff, this goes along with an idea i've had for quite awhile about pitching the need for costal radar to the gates foundation for funding. the idea is the education system throughout the puget sound area would be more functional if administrators and transportation people could better predict when weather will probably impact getting to and from school. i assume you have student projects and seminar groups that could research the potential monetary impact on school systems if they were truly able to decide when students should and shouldn't expect to go to class.<BR/><BR/>it might make sense to offer your museum and the costal weather radar as a package and see if the foundation would fund all or part of the proposal.<BR/><BR/>assuming good 'homework' and a tight prospectus, wouldn't hurt to ask . . ..<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/><BR/>tAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-36686591561306431022009-03-30T16:42:00.000-07:002009-03-30T16:42:00.000-07:00Ocean Shores would be the best location, easy acce...Ocean Shores would be the best location, easy access from I-5 etc. And the wind always blows there. They also have an interpretive center there as well. Sounds like a great idea.Pat Timmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15006374509383060073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77948446199792043192009-03-30T16:33:00.000-07:002009-03-30T16:33:00.000-07:00camco said:Cliff, c'mon. You clearly don't realize...camco said:<BR/><I>Cliff, c'mon. You clearly don't realize how severe the economic crisis is. My kids face the most grim future imaginable --no jobs, war, famine, disease. A weather museum might stoke your ego, but it's a sick joke for those of us who have to work for a living and raise kids in these times.</I><BR/><BR/>Camco, I have to work for a living but my husband and I have both been laid off from our permanent jobs over the past two months. Our personal economic outlook is grim. We are raising a 15 yo, a 9 yo, and an 11 month old.<BR/><BR/>I personally feel that the most important thing I can teach my children is resilience and adaptability. Our kids are learning about how to have fun for no money, making food dollars stretch further, conserving electricity and energy, and keeping a positive outlook in the face of difficulty.<BR/><BR/>Yes, they face a difficult future. That's no reason to be grim or even to be extremely negative. Our grandparents survived the Depression by helping each other and making do -- that's what we have to do too, and getting to know our neighbors has been a wonderful part of it so far.<BR/><BR/>Are there days I don't want to get out of bed? You'd better believe it. But I do. The kids need to see that not having a job doesn't make me a useless, despondent, negative person. The bad economy doesn't mean we should trash the planet or other people. <BR/><BR/>And a weather museum might help kids LEARN how to deal with our changing climate, how to adapt, how to help the plants and animals around them. I don't think it's a waste of time or money... it's certainly worth a hell of a lot more than a Qwest Field, a Seattle Art Museum Sculpture Garden, or even a revamped Seattle Center, in my opinion -- but those projects are done.JewelyaZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09434569437851248356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-67237230839621293132009-03-30T14:32:00.000-07:002009-03-30T14:32:00.000-07:00What would a PNW Storm Museum be with out an exhib...What would a PNW Storm Museum be with out an exhibit on WAVES - especially if it were located on the coast?Plasmanoirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14584064584664167618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-25843822692251430122009-03-30T11:05:00.000-07:002009-03-30T11:05:00.000-07:00I think the best way to get this kind of movement ...I think the best way to get this kind of movement started is to get a few restaurants, etc. to try some of the ideas you suggested and THEN get some travel blogger/writer type folks out to write about their experiences. Once the cat is out of the bag regarding how much fun/exciting the experience is, then you'll have people coming out to the coast for the experience and will have momentum (and more money) for a museum. It's sort of a "if you build it, they will come" kind of problem, I think. <BR/>As a traveler, I've never come out to the coast for the weather, but I may have to do that next winter.<BR/><BR/>Austin Hill - Seattle<BR/>Editor/Co-Founder Travellious.comAustinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15990732604586751594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-87464522743379105422009-03-30T10:50:00.000-07:002009-03-30T10:50:00.000-07:00If you could get APL at the UW to add underwater c...If you could get APL at the UW to add underwater cameras or video of all the ships wrecked off the coast, that would be even better! And don't forget a K-12 education component (storm tracking, history, etc.) for such a museum.sharihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16123399734918931481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-20006822679902790262009-03-29T22:31:00.000-07:002009-03-29T22:31:00.000-07:00Don't bash the ideas cause your particular situati...Don't bash the ideas cause your particular situation might not be the brightest. You play the cards you are dealt. This is something that would probably receive funding from private parties anyways, if it were to happen. Just because your family is suffering (which is horrible), doesn't mean you should belittle another's idea. Serial - That's apart of the exploratory stage of the research process. That's valuable material when one is looking to start a project like this. Such marketing research would be demanded. Personally, it's an interesting idea.HarrisonCZ7https://www.blogger.com/profile/07617586103350487911noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-7170894466052899282009-03-29T21:55:00.000-07:002009-03-29T21:55:00.000-07:00Rather than Westport, I'd go for the Long Beach Pe...Rather than Westport, I'd go for the Long Beach Peninsula. People like to see museums in clusters and the one in Astoria is great (agree with Jim there)so to have something on the WA side within short travel distance of Astoria would be very interesting. Ilwaco, Seaview,Long Beach. All have good places for families to stay and other things to do. They did a great job down there with the Lewis and Clark bicentennial and may have something of a community organization structure to put something together. Tough to put a museum together in these economic times....but good thinking can done and perhaps some ingenuity for gradual achievement of long term plan. And weather watching in the PNW is easily available entertainment and educational......as one can see with this blog.Juliahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01390390644684547884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-79803574220938258872009-03-29T21:25:00.000-07:002009-03-29T21:25:00.000-07:00Cliff, c'mon. You clearly don't realize how severe...Cliff, c'mon. You clearly don't realize how severe the economic crisis is. My kids face the most grim future imaginable --no jobs, war, famine, disease. A weather museum might stoke your ego, but it's a sick joke for those of us who have to work for a living and raise kids in these times.camcohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04966441657876006313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11452546044327891422009-03-29T21:15:00.000-07:002009-03-29T21:15:00.000-07:00I like the museum idea, but then, I'm a sucker for...I like the museum idea, but then, I'm a sucker for museums. <BR/><BR/>You asked why people go to Cannon Beach instead of the WA coast For us, all the cars allowed on the beach in WA make us nuts. We've almost been run over multiple times.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11653309983681734843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-10409838932445469142009-03-29T20:48:00.000-07:002009-03-29T20:48:00.000-07:00Yikes! Sorry for the multiple posts!Yikes! Sorry for the multiple posts!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77809166972460714962009-03-29T20:46:00.001-07:002009-03-29T20:46:00.001-07:00For those looking for exhibits related to PNW stor...For those looking for exhibits related to PNW storms, I have two suggestions. Go to the maritime museum at the wharf in Astoria, OR. There they have displays of Coast Guard surf rescue boats at work, etc. <BR/><BR/>Also, as Cliff mentioned, the North Head Lighthouse at Ilwaco is a favorite place for us. The view from the lighthouse is pretty awesome during a storm or when there is a storm surge coming ashore. A short ways from there is the Lewis & Clark museum. It sits on the bluff overlooking the "graveyard of the Pacific"- the Columbia River bar and jetty. Inside the museum are displays of the Lighthouse Service and Coast Guard with pictures of shipwrecks, etc.. From the windows you can watch as ships and fishing vessels make their way through the channel and over the bar, sometimes the waves are HUGE. And the sea lions love to play in the surf along the jetty. Just don't hike out on the jetty if the surf is up ....unless you want to visit Davey Jones' Locker...!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-78557483084226458082009-03-29T20:46:00.000-07:002009-03-29T20:46:00.000-07:00For those looking for exhibits related to PNW stor...For those looking for exhibits related to PNW storms, I have two suggestions. Go to the maritime museum at the wharf in Astoria, OR. There they have displays of Coast Guard surf rescue boats at work, etc. <BR/><BR/>Also, as Cliff mentioned, the North Head Lighthouse at Ilwaco is a favorite place for us. The view from the lighthouse is pretty awesome during a storm or when there is a storm surge coming ashore. A short ways from there is the Lewis & Clark museum. It sits on the bluff overlooking the "graveyard of the Pacific"- the Columbia River bar and jetty. Inside the museum are displays of the Lighthouse Service and Coast Guard with pictures of shipwrecks, etc.. From the windows you can watch as ships and fishing vessels make their way through the channel and over the bar, sometimes the waves are HUGE. And the sea lions love to play in the surf along the jetty. Just don't hike out on the jetty if the surf is up ....unless you want to visit Davey Jones' Locker...!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-56501173862156868262009-03-29T20:45:00.000-07:002009-03-29T20:45:00.000-07:00For those looking for exhibits related to PNW stor...For those looking for exhibits related to PNW storms, I have two suggestions. Go to the maritime museum at the wharf in Astoria, OR. There they have displays of Coast Guard surf rescue boats at work, etc. <BR/><BR/>Also, as Cliff mentioned, the North Head Lighthouse at Ilwaco is a favorite place for us. The view from the lighthouse is pretty awesome during a storm or when there is a storm surge coming ashore. A short ways from there is the Lewis & Clark museum. It sits on the bluff overlooking the "graveyard of the Pacific"- the Columbia River bar and jetty. Inside the museum are displays of the Lighthouse Service and Coast Guard with pictures of shipwrecks, etc.. From the windows you can watch as ships and fishing vessels make their way through the channel and over the bar, sometimes the waves are HUGE. And the sea lions love to play in the surf along the jetty. Just don't hike out on the jetty if the surf is up ....unless you want to visit Davey Jones' Locker...!Jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08275580535017975456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-89000103539674181952009-03-29T20:11:00.000-07:002009-03-29T20:11:00.000-07:00I to like the idea of the "Storm Museaum". If it r...I to like the idea of the "Storm Museaum". If it really does come together, I think it would be of great value to learn about PNW storms.<BR/><BR/>Along with other ideas to put in it that have shared so far....here`s one that we could all learn more about. Micro climates.<BR/><BR/>Someone on here mentioned about "Storm meals". We`ll for starters, how about one called the "PSCZ breakfast meal". Then for lunch, there could be something called the "High pressure meal".LOL! And lastly, how about an evening meal named "Storm force".andycottlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696751462397354299noreply@blogger.com