tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post3890315120481115736..comments2024-03-27T21:02:08.203-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Smartphone Weather Apps. Can You Trust Them?Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger38125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-2699811202997679612020-08-10T16:11:08.511-07:002020-08-10T16:11:08.511-07:00The issue I have isn't about the accuracy but ...The issue I have isn't about the accuracy but rather the radar images just not loading. This has been plaguing my radar apps for ten years now, across many different apps and two operating systems (Android and then iOS) and different internet providers. Right now there's a massive storm racing across the midwest where I am, and the app I'm using this time (Dark Sky) is only loading the radar on the left half of the screen, west of Lake Michigan. The right half of the screen (where I am, Michigan) is blank. And there's a solid vertical edge where the image didn't load. And that's exactly what I've seen over and over across all these apps over the years. Radar images simply not loading or only part of them loading. (And it happens whether I'm using Verizon data over the air or my local internet connection.) I just switched to Accuweather right now as I typed this, and now that one is finally loading (it wasn't earlier) and I can see how close the storm is. But I don't understand why the images just don't load or will only partially load.Jeff Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02863408178241238890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-59243945859448417132020-03-06T21:53:10.418-08:002020-03-06T21:53:10.418-08:00I still think the smartphone app is very accurate ...I still think the smartphone app is very accurate in weather forecast, and it is updated in a timely manner, which is very helpful for my travel. Moreover, if in different places, my weather will change, of course, I need to refresh. So even if I come to China from America, I won't worry about the weather information.Naccyhttps://www.edupalchina.org/post/epc-cultural-events-curriculum-2020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-55087947463275619812020-02-12T16:03:47.267-08:002020-02-12T16:03:47.267-08:00IBM purchased wunderground and already owned weath...IBM purchased wunderground and already owned weather.com. so natch they'll kill one, looks like wunderground. Monopolies kill competition very effectively. wynneforplantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11241292689283245393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-91880224844660661992020-02-12T15:57:13.367-08:002020-02-12T15:57:13.367-08:00isn't overnight low (unless warm front comes i...isn't overnight low (unless warm front comes in) generally right before sunrise? Definitely not at 7 PM anywhere I've lived. wynneforplantshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11241292689283245393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-23080763087858428282020-02-10T21:58:11.999-08:002020-02-10T21:58:11.999-08:00I'm confused - why don't the human forecas...I'm confused - why don't the human forecasters at the National Weather Service just use one of the apps instead of their own models if the apps are usually more accurate? Plogghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02206060224827436105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-15405880769128093482020-02-10T21:40:46.566-08:002020-02-10T21:40:46.566-08:00Poopie...it's not necessary to be condescendin...Poopie...it's not necessary to be condescending when replying to a comment. My comment was not about accuracy, but about the reduced quality of the display and included content of the changed Weather Underground app. There is enough arrogant and disrespectful activity on the web. We don't need it here on this website as well. Cedarspringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18357484458111256359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-20679118415544368412020-02-10T12:22:05.467-08:002020-02-10T12:22:05.467-08:00Can someone here tell me what is considered an acc...Can someone here tell me what is considered an accurate forecast of temperature low and high? I can speaking of a short-term forecast, for example, checking the temperature forecast at 7:00 pm for the overnight low. It is not unusual for the temperature for the Olympia Airport to be five or more degrees colder than forecast. Is that considered accurate? For deciding whether to protect may plants I used to assume a low of four degrees lower than the forecasted low but I have had some scares where lows forecasted to be in the upper 30s have instead been below freezing. Thanks for your help.Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06938732389434946072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-13184583704239222482020-02-10T09:22:20.158-08:002020-02-10T09:22:20.158-08:00I've noticed the decrease in Weather Undergrou...I've noticed the decrease in Weather Underground accuracy as well in recent months. <br /><br />If both Weather Underground and The Weather Channel are owned by IBM, does anyone know why they have a big difference in accuracy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-47852472246849796882020-02-10T09:03:38.131-08:002020-02-10T09:03:38.131-08:00Windy.com and Weather.us are both outstanding for ...Windy.com and Weather.us are both outstanding for users who want visualization tools for the top forecast models. And I have a paid subscription to Radarscope Pro, which is in a different league than the mass of radar apps that target casual/consumer users.<br /><br />All three of these services require self-instruction to use properly, and they're likely to frustrate and/or overwhelm casual users. But for enthusiasts they're head and shoulders above the usual fare.<br /><br />One fact of life here is that precip will, in many cases, appear "out of nowhere" or suddenly vanish off the radar. That's the result of fast developing features like a PSCZ, orographic effects, and sudden, drastic changes in low level wind patterns. If you're trying to predict the exact timing, placement, and intensity of a convergence zone, for example, just accept that no forecast can (or probably ever will) give you useful results. There have been plenty of days when I'm out with my camera, and a PSCZ turns a clear and sunny morning into a torrential downpour or a flash hailstorm in the space of 15 minutes. I carry really good raingear and never change my plans -- i just deal with whatever the weather throws at me and marvel at how cool it is to experience one of the world's most unpredictable and dynamic climates right outside my front door.Foohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03929520923930532337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-67190060436121768832020-02-10T08:44:14.830-08:002020-02-10T08:44:14.830-08:00I've used Weather Underground for years, and s...I've used Weather Underground for years, and since they were purchased by the Weather Channel their quality has gone down hill. Do you think the Weather Channel is sabotaging Wunderground?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11436865645786693195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-73155829828615092142020-02-10T03:44:52.125-08:002020-02-10T03:44:52.125-08:00Funny thing is the majority of people I know use t...Funny thing is the majority of people I know use their phone as a phone not as a pretend computer. They just call people or text people maybe do casual shopping and that's it.TruckerTuckerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00859114057160996512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77321210272302692642020-02-10T02:28:07.260-08:002020-02-10T02:28:07.260-08:00Most weather apps are not even internally consiste...Most weather apps are not even internally consistent, i.e. if it says the high and low temperature for a given day, clicking to the hourly forecast shows different highs and lows. But without clicking to the days, the little icons of sun and cloud don't mean very much. Only the discussions on the NWS station pages can really do justice to the details and uncertainties inherent in forecasting weather.weltanschuuanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10371715990047689781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-81747408365278193182020-02-10T00:18:11.837-08:002020-02-10T00:18:11.837-08:00Look out your window... check your thermometer...m...Look out your window... check your thermometer...most times the weather folks can't predict what it did the day before much less a week out...I use any of their guesses as just that..a guess for severe weather...at least if its severe enough the computers will at least give me a heads up...but in any event the weather here isn't normally severe enough to change my plans...I do however want to send my thoughts to those affected by the latest floods..I always wanted to be a weather guy...still would now...Gus Bushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18059042000916401490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-24512102392467912422020-02-09T20:55:20.632-08:002020-02-09T20:55:20.632-08:00Windy.com app uses raw GFS/ECMWF/NAM output.Windy.com app uses raw GFS/ECMWF/NAM output.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-52203525971299822072020-02-09T19:46:10.784-08:002020-02-09T19:46:10.784-08:00I agree re: the NWS discussions - they tend to be ...I agree re: the NWS discussions - they tend to be very comprehensive & as spot-on as weather forecasts can be.<br /><br />I ALSO agree 1000% re: the Seattle Times usefulness = tiz one of several factors in our decision to cancel our subscription ! floaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04353784905773758854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-45067571374573349712020-02-09T19:05:53.423-08:002020-02-09T19:05:53.423-08:00Startup Climacell is another app that I find wonde...Startup Climacell is another app that I find wonderfully accurate. They use cell tower info and AI. https://www.climacell.co/ Also along Cliff's wonderful analysis, I use the UW/NOAA site. Very, very useful and I really enjoy learning about PNW weather. It's fascinating. (And I have no connection to Climacell, other than using their app)Rabbithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10251602917902597134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-35471895386748034782020-02-09T18:39:54.097-08:002020-02-09T18:39:54.097-08:00FYI Cliff, there's a typo in your copy of the ...FYI Cliff, there's a typo in your copy of the article title but not in the source. The screenshot directly below the quote shows "Why your weather app isn't very good" rather than "Why your weather apps (sic) isn't very good".Patrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05725021628753795436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-81562285488325211982020-02-09T17:23:41.148-08:002020-02-09T17:23:41.148-08:00Cliff,
I'm sticking with the UW Atmospheric S...Cliff,<br /><br />I'm sticking with the UW Atmospheric Sciences site! It's very interesting to learn about what it provides and how to best use the information in your daily life. <br />Sharonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01122154083786146743noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-80244106116272872692020-02-09T17:22:18.039-08:002020-02-09T17:22:18.039-08:00Here in Central Washington Moses lake the radar is...Here in Central Washington Moses lake the radar is very inaccurate. Often when it shows rain it's not raining and vice versa. The Noaa office in Spokane is not near as accurate forecasting Moses lake weather, as the Seattle Noaa is forecasting Seattle weather. I have tried every big weather app out there and nothing is really very good. Honestly I can usually forecast when their forecast is going to be wrong. It's pretty useless for the farmers around here. I have written the Spokane office about the radar problem in the basin and they tell me it's $3 million to update properly and it probably will not happen anytime soon. Sucks for us.jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11074848596330521566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-65605512915664834512020-02-09T15:25:49.264-08:002020-02-09T15:25:49.264-08:00Now's Day android weather apps are more accura...Now's Day android weather apps are more accurate. But i can't trust them because it's shows false weather details dua to some reasons or bug. But i can check it my self. <a rel="nofollow">Google Find My Device app क्या है?</a>Krushnakant Sadiyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18065840520077894583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-31829144525879009772020-02-09T15:03:49.224-08:002020-02-09T15:03:49.224-08:00Well you could always read the article and go for ...Well you could always read the article and go for one of the higher-accuracy apps clearly listeds. Poopiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00657822976401569520noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-74411509555026400152020-02-09T09:46:15.157-08:002020-02-09T09:46:15.157-08:00I can only guess, but it would seem that the volum...I can only guess, but it would seem that the volume of real-time (or near real-time) PWS sensor data employed by those apps gives them an edge. How much does NWS and-or NOAA look to folks' data? I've looked at lists of the stations used for climate "data" in this county, and some of those locations seem like poor choices. There's a trio up here I've started calling "the Sahara triangle"; their precip is routinely far less (like half) of the watershed's on average. If the NWS and other models rely on those spots...Oye!GlacierBakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14691372693124586046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-68362135366871122382020-02-09T08:48:56.362-08:002020-02-09T08:48:56.362-08:00Whatever happened to the UWx app? It doesn't ...Whatever happened to the UWx app? It doesn't seem to work anymore.AdrianShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10363172866314211427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-40667635695836305732020-02-09T08:10:27.303-08:002020-02-09T08:10:27.303-08:00When I looked at the "forecast adviser" ...When I looked at the "forecast adviser" more detailed accuracy reporting, there appeared to be an erroneous zero in the "icon" column for WUnderground which is what took it's % way down below The Weather Channel... aren't they owned by the same company and using the same forecasts?SMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13199877236481694840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-43469833015617855212020-02-09T05:28:28.186-08:002020-02-09T05:28:28.186-08:00The forecast discussions the NWS puts out are grea...The forecast discussions the NWS puts out are great - I read them every day.<br /><br />The Seattle Times once again shows its stuff - it's the best bird cage liner available anywhere.John K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03575682658318674003noreply@blogger.com