tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post3915599006361009931..comments2024-03-28T10:16:44.231-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: U.S. Numerical Weather Prediction is Crippled by the Division between NOAA and the Academic Community. But a Rare Opportunity Beckons.Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-32677941243689336182020-12-04T10:52:37.825-08:002020-12-04T10:52:37.825-08:00It's human nature Cliff, and it's there in...It's human nature Cliff, and it's there in one form or another in every group of animal that competes for survival. Been that way since the dawn of time and it will always be like that. I'm guessing you already know this.John K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03575682658318674003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-27805539384345485072020-12-03T22:34:47.241-08:002020-12-03T22:34:47.241-08:00The problem in academic research in general is not...The problem in academic research in general is not competition, but hypercompetition. There is so much competition that it's no longer productive.EuropeanManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16989032380024260304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-47222682514395269012020-12-03T14:39:08.424-08:002020-12-03T14:39:08.424-08:00Cliff, since you've got a better/more experien...Cliff, since you've got a better/more experienced view of this process than we do, would you please provide us with a list of the other bidders for the contract?<br />(with or without editorial assessment... your choice)<br />ThanksRich Seymourhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03873252772289621010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-47295549061743221872020-12-03T14:22:39.148-08:002020-12-03T14:22:39.148-08:00In a perfect world: Since the ECMWF does better, a...In a perfect world: Since the ECMWF does better, and weather has no political boundaries why can't we think in global terms and not country terms speaking of jingoism and turf battles. Why can't we all use ECMWF modeling globally, and work on hybrid short term modeling for the future such as what SPC has done. Cliff, you provided the argument about skill and turf. We need to work with what we have (cost) and develop future levels or spin-offs that maybe the WMO might help to administer. I know the answer. The in fighting and localized jingoism you describe is killing numeric weather prediction. Second choice NCAR with extreme collaboration leaving the turf battles aside. Good discussion. Thanks for the opportunity from someone in the trenches operationally. BTW I use the Euro extensively, backed up by the GFS/UKMET/CMC etc. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13759994750606898555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-34979661859266710802020-12-03T09:48:02.799-08:002020-12-03T09:48:02.799-08:00It's hard to read this and not think of Dr. Ry...It's hard to read this and not think of Dr. Ryan Maue's criticism of US climate and weather modeling. One of the things he emphasized however was not just the computational side but using the vast amounts of weather data collected that's collected to provide better input to the model runs. Apparently, the Europeans do a much better job of that than the US does. Is this something that will be addressed as well?Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09467089893072606913noreply@blogger.com