tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post4769229623496202324..comments2024-03-28T03:08:44.068-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: If you are undecided about I-732, read this before you vote.Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-79270205808445124222016-11-06T17:39:42.405-08:002016-11-06T17:39:42.405-08:00For anyone looking for information about the budge...For anyone looking for information about the budget question. Sightline Institute did an independent analysis and found the "budget hole" claim against 732 to be a "red herring". Further, the state Department of Ecology estimates that "if no action is taken, potential costs to Washington from climate change impacts are projected to reach nearly $10 billion per year by 2020 from increased health costs, storm damage, coastal destruction, rising energy costs, increased wildfires, drought, and other impacts" We should act now, or it will cost us later. <br /><br />http://www.sightline.org/2016/08/02/does-initiative-732-carbon-tax-have-a-budget-hole/?__hstc=238502111.8573d11c243328a69b5f7b45dba0a0dd.1478481198243.1478481198243.1478481198243.1&__hssc=238502111.12.1478481198244&__hsfp=670211572<br /><br />https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/documents/1201004.pdfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11677066789124460241noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-12376977108406831972016-11-05T06:07:43.073-07:002016-11-05T06:07:43.073-07:00Thanks so much, Cliff, for the clear explanations ...Thanks so much, Cliff, for the clear explanations on I-732. I am beside myself at some of the groups that have not supported it, and will be changing the groups that I'm donating to going forward.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18262198563779297586noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-45173451963506528592016-11-05T02:38:04.603-07:002016-11-05T02:38:04.603-07:00Please provide a link. Thanks!Please provide a link. Thanks!FURhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11685841014713944150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-23870029548398637332016-11-05T01:42:16.943-07:002016-11-05T01:42:16.943-07:00I do not understand how any serious person who is ...I do not understand how any serious person who is curious in the scientific basis of global warming could reach Unknown's conclusions about it. As someone who studies physics, and astrophysics in particular, I think the basis of global warming is remarkably simple compared to some other things we might be interested in. And the fundamental physics behind it has been understood for well over a century. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02731432109561215419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-61414831347652631712016-11-04T23:31:28.727-07:002016-11-04T23:31:28.727-07:00Nobel Prize already went to the Intergovernmental ...Nobel Prize already went to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. There's enough "material scientific content" in the IPCC reports to reform the opinion of any open-minded thinker, and still there's more. What most impresses me, after engaging with this research for almost 40 years, is how some of the predicted impacts have unfolded along a timeline more accelerated than previously expected.Rebecca Timsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11893945762947495364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-39538395947450548822016-11-04T12:41:38.401-07:002016-11-04T12:41:38.401-07:00Thank you, Cliff, for your steadfast and fact-base...Thank you, Cliff, for your steadfast and fact-based support of I-732. The opposition has resorted to some of the worst sorts of misinformation and mischaracterization possible, but so many credible and persuasive voices are now loud and clear in support of the measure. Today Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. of the global Waterkeeper Alliance published his support. Let's hope Washington State voters will make history with this next Tuesday!Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03853016282304793773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-86883481347795743562016-11-04T10:16:29.872-07:002016-11-04T10:16:29.872-07:00Dear Unknown,
I hope you are young enough to live ...Dear Unknown,<br />I hope you are young enough to live another 30 years then you might realize that AGW is more a "Democratic issue" than the relationship between smoking, heart attack and cancer. Mr. John Wayne was a devoted Republican. He smoked. He died of lung cancer. Cancer and AGW do not recognize political boundaries. Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09751991294132134335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-46578724618194398082016-11-04T09:33:22.996-07:002016-11-04T09:33:22.996-07:00Make an informed choice, read both sides, then vot...Make an informed choice, read both sides, then vote.codetalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04024436146473451518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-14256884461174798302016-11-04T09:32:45.611-07:002016-11-04T09:32:45.611-07:00Make and informed choice, read both sides first, t...Make and informed choice, read both sides first, then vote.codetalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04024436146473451518noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-34686148165869637302016-11-04T07:06:48.125-07:002016-11-04T07:06:48.125-07:00From I-732's piece on carbon storage in forest...From I-732's piece on carbon storage in forests which you linked to: <br /><br />"Far and away the single biggest contributor to climate change is CO2 emissions from fossil fuel combustion."<br /><br />And so your UW compadres waste no time losing all credibility. You might mention to them that there's a Nobel prize in store if they can convincingly demonstrate that claim.<br /><br />Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02661053694620458490noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90354039927282573382016-11-03T21:13:59.358-07:002016-11-03T21:13:59.358-07:00This link hasn't been posted on this blog as f...This link hasn't been posted on this blog as far as I can tell.<br />http://www.vox.com/2016/10/18/13012394/i-732-carbon-tax-washington<br /><br />It's a long but not uninteresting explanation of why 732 doesn't have the support you might expect. 15 min read.<br /><br />An over-simplified casual summary: <br />Green economists are 732's primary proponents. <br />The folks against 732 are a loose coalition of green and/or liberal groups that want to craft a more perfect (or at least more inclusive) carbon legislation.<br />They feel 732 doesn't address many of their concerns. They are correct, it doesn't.<br /><br />Opinion:<br />732 is flawed, and the numbers seem optimistic. <br />If it becomes law, adjustments will need to be made, perhaps quickly, in the courts.<br /><br />732’s opponents agree that you need to start somewhere. <br />Doing "nothing" until the ballot contains more perfect carbon legislation is folly.<br />"Nothing" never becomes law.<br /><br />How long are we going to wait?<br /><br /><br />TM<br /><br /><br /><br />Terryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16809499370378153285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-81486949966466571032016-11-03T11:37:38.729-07:002016-11-03T11:37:38.729-07:00I'm willing to take Cliff's recommendation...I'm willing to take Cliff's recommendation, but one statement in the progressive voters guide disturbs me- that it would "blow a huge hole in the state budget." Still looking for a response to that, and more info.<br />andy gladishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17515546420987565268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-52566461307577894382016-11-03T07:55:38.855-07:002016-11-03T07:55:38.855-07:00Thanks, but I already voted against this "pro...Thanks, but I already voted against this "progressive" tax scheme. The global warming crusade is entirely a matter of Democrats wanting to raise taxes, and nothing else. Having studied the issue thoroughly, I am convinced there is no material scentific content to the anthropogenic global warming hypothesis.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01119699553955459348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77919203718006605912016-11-03T07:44:09.710-07:002016-11-03T07:44:09.710-07:00Bravo, Cliff.
The embarrassing reason that some ...Bravo, Cliff. <br /><br />The embarrassing reason that some environmental organizations have opposed 732 is that the initiative's authors came from outside those organizations. Not Invented Here, therefore Bad.<br /><br />Thanks for your consistent support of 732.<br /><br />Abe JacobsonAbe Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00332896461501944728noreply@blogger.com