tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post5501500261526179463..comments2024-03-28T10:16:44.231-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Serious Climate Misinformation In Seattle Time Headline ArticleCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-14428366581660450802023-03-19T11:16:47.534-07:002023-03-19T11:16:47.534-07:00Ya Cliff I laugh at everything blaming "carbo...Ya Cliff I laugh at everything blaming "carbon" and big oil, people need to rewatch the inconvent truth pushed out by our friend AL and see that not one thing the Climate "experts " forecasted has cpmr true. Sea level is the same and since 2016 the average temperature of thr lower atmosphere has cooled down to 1982 levels as per satellite data. Keithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00975976526421404962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-23759385532069553092023-03-19T07:53:00.548-07:002023-03-19T07:53:00.548-07:00The oil companies are not my home town newspaper. ...The oil companies are not my home town newspaper. The oil companies are not responsible for informing the public with factual information. Don't you see the difference? The Biden Administration approved the Alaska oil project. Do you have proof that Biden was bribed?Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-66058319988829033012023-03-19T07:20:46.925-07:002023-03-19T07:20:46.925-07:00Why do you always criticize the Seattle Times but ...Why do you always criticize the Seattle Times but not the oil companies?<br /><br />Conoco Phillips was just awarded the Willow Project in Alaska which will be another carbon bomb. Comment on that.<br /><br />These ruthless oil corporations have a lot more influence than the puny Seattle Times.<br /><br />They can bribe all the politicians. Republican or Democrat.Danahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04919135583311087704noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-42458856399947287562023-03-18T08:00:27.461-07:002023-03-18T08:00:27.461-07:00A very problematic paper. They look at increases ...A very problematic paper. They look at increases of frequency about a threshold. A flawed approach. If temperature increases even a small bit, one gets large increases of frequency above the threshold. I have blogged about this issue in several studies...such as regarding the 2021 heatwaveCliff Mass Weather Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-63759670813511440612023-03-17T16:15:57.802-07:002023-03-17T16:15:57.802-07:00Care to comment on Fig. 1 in Increasing heat and r...Care to comment on Fig. 1 in Increasing heat and rainfall extremes now far outside the historical climate, Climate and Atmospheric Science 4, Article number 45:2021 ?<br />These graphs go back to 1990 and earlier and show a big divergence from the norm for rainfall and temperature extremes.Weather Devoteehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07071334949599205140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-80811969667112501392023-03-17T08:57:44.247-07:002023-03-17T08:57:44.247-07:00There is no reason...based on theory or observatio...There is no reason...based on theory or observations--- to suppose there is some "threshold" of warming that will produce a sharp jump in hydrological extremesCliff Mass Weather Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-7551707142874620572023-03-17T08:50:01.821-07:002023-03-17T08:50:01.821-07:00This is not the only example of credulous and naiv...This is not the only example of credulous and naive "science" reporting in the media. If you look for example at the fawning admiration for anything with the word "fusion" in it, you can see that many "science" reporters are neither well educated technically nor sufficiently skeptical. There certainly have been some excellent science journalists, well trained technically and properly skeptical. For example Walter Sullivan of the NYT, circa 1970's. But they are sadly the exception nowadays.Abe Jacobsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00332896461501944728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-16783910171631255452023-03-17T07:29:20.340-07:002023-03-17T07:29:20.340-07:00there were periods of major hydrological events in...there were periods of major hydrological events in the past that this short record is not considering. Don't you see that is a problem for your hypothesis? Did you notice that the intensity of the extreme hydro events did NOT increase in their findings? This is very problematic work.Cliff Mass Weather Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9642154790021465652023-03-16T23:24:00.370-07:002023-03-16T23:24:00.370-07:00One thing that confuses me about the idea that we ...One thing that confuses me about the idea that we are now experiencing all kinds of weather extremes based on climate change is that whatever portion of the 1.2 degree Celsius warming that has happened over the past 20 years has been the tipping point into extreme weather events. I have a hard time believing that we were in some kind of goldilocks zone, and .2 degrees or .4 degrees finally pushed us over the edge. The Earth has had so much climate variability over its lifetime that I find it hard to believe that whatever cumulative change has happened has now doomed the planet to extreme weather events.C.P.O.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16880429004171251097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-54571362884941922192023-03-16T21:39:08.640-07:002023-03-16T21:39:08.640-07:00I agree that the correlation isn't particularl...I agree that the correlation isn't particularly strong, and not as strong as they're claiming. But by the same token, the fact that relationship isn't linear doesn't disprove a causative relationship -- "What was global warming doing during the previous 15 years? On vacation?" is too glib IMO. That burst in extreme events does pretty well correlate with the recent few years of unusually high temperatures (the last 8 years are ALL hotter than ANY of the modern-era years before them)Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08355001890591071849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-65690455265606192792023-03-16T19:38:55.449-07:002023-03-16T19:38:55.449-07:00The diurnal temperature range at my location in Be...The diurnal temperature range at my location in Bellingham on 3/16 was 30.3 Fahrenheit degrees: from a morning low of 27.5F to an afternoon high of 57.8F. 30+ Fahrenheit degree diurnal temperature ranges are relatively uncommon at my location and this was the first instance since 9/21/22. The low of 27.5F is the coldest temperature I've measured so late in the season since my record began October 1, 2015. There was a 13.4MJ/m^2 of cumulative solar energy and, overall, it was a delightful early spring day - a great start to the upcoming 'heatwave' which will give a nice growth spurt to my garden.Friendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16113544345441368032noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-78541989929139538482023-03-16T17:36:30.269-07:002023-03-16T17:36:30.269-07:00This ST "click-for-bait" story is just t...This ST "click-for-bait" story is just the latest example of why most people like myself, have "disowned" that fish-wrap. Skeptic517https://www.blogger.com/profile/05915632957904944166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-66795743256748148632023-03-16T17:05:06.020-07:002023-03-16T17:05:06.020-07:00Who cares about such silly things as facts when in...Who cares about such silly things as facts when instead you can carry water for the chosen narrative?herrbrahmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08308204686231352936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-39660397531409270962023-03-16T16:07:35.856-07:002023-03-16T16:07:35.856-07:00I always look at the byline for these kind of arti...I always look at the byline for these kind of articles in the Times. If it says Washington Post or New York Times, I skip the story because I know "the narrative" will be promoted ("the planet is burning", "existential threat"). Looks like I wasn't wrong skipping this one.Brett Gaspershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09655018109311520571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90888726977345845462023-03-16T15:51:41.100-07:002023-03-16T15:51:41.100-07:00Three things:
1) Please link to articles you'...Three things:<br /><br />1) Please link to articles you're quoting portions of so we can see the full context. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-environment/2023/03/13/drought-rainfall-climate-hottest-years-extreme/)<br />2) These sorts of relationships aren't necessarily linear -- it's possible that we'd see changes more often after passing a threshold, and not beforehand<br />3) The last ~8 years _have_ been meaningfully warmer than those before. (about 0.3C above the 1990-2020 average, see https://climate.copernicus.eu/copernicus-2022-was-year-climate-extremes-record-high-temperatures-and-rising-concentrations)<br /><br />Here's the study in question for anyone who wants to dig in https://www.nature.com/articles/s44221-023-00040-5.epdfChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08355001890591071849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-19058893700112505622023-03-16T13:22:22.645-07:002023-03-16T13:22:22.645-07:00Weather.com has an article saying the same thing. ...Weather.com has an article saying the same thing. Peer reviewed study by NASA "Scientists.<br /><br />Back in the day you probably couldn't make a prediction on 20 years of Data. Not sure that is still correct.jno62https://www.blogger.com/profile/07471604978940553463noreply@blogger.com