tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post6721481337187673994..comments2024-03-28T23:07:35.632-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Record Cold and Unprecedented Trough Hits HawaiiCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-48374121379550731252017-05-03T10:11:32.255-07:002017-05-03T10:11:32.255-07:00Hey John Marshall, here's a nice article for y...Hey John Marshall, here's a nice article for you. http://merionwest.com/2017/04/25/richard-lindzen-thoughts-on-the-public-discourse-over-climate-change/<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097807891329244609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-50343091744447321662017-05-03T09:21:26.321-07:002017-05-03T09:21:26.321-07:00Hmm, normal to see a blizzard this intense at the ...Hmm, normal to see a blizzard this intense at the end of April across the Great Plains heh? Check out wheat prices...nothing to see here...these aren't the droids you're looking for right?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097807891329244609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-87056961311001824572017-05-03T08:44:07.230-07:002017-05-03T08:44:07.230-07:00It's cold everywhere, but the AGW cult still c...It's cold everywhere, but the AGW cult still can't see the forest for the trees. FOLLOW THE MONEY people! It'a all about the Manischewitz cycle and it's clear that we are entering a period of extreme cold and possibly another glacial maxim. LOOK AT SUNSPOTS PEOPLE!!! The grapes are dying Hawaii and think about the children!!! Volcanoes are the key. Hawaii, volcanoes, coincidence? HMMMM. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11455128157120463239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-22227162143919327592017-05-03T08:36:42.402-07:002017-05-03T08:36:42.402-07:00@ Sam Brittman - Another good article about the bo...@ Sam Brittman - Another good article about the bogus consensus.<br /><br />https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/07/17/that-scientific-global-warming-consensus-not/#352c1fc3bb32Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14973405821959168731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-28261424500922922422017-05-03T07:49:50.692-07:002017-05-03T07:49:50.692-07:00@Placeholder - thanks for the link on the consensu...@Placeholder - thanks for the link on the consensus! Good stuff! I hadn't seen that one. You have to dig to find so much of this stuff. So sad that the truth isn't the norm.Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14973405821959168731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-21727922607872633582017-05-03T07:40:02.728-07:002017-05-03T07:40:02.728-07:00This is NOT normal. And this is not just a few iso...This is NOT normal. And this is not just a few isolated events over the past couple years. This will continue for years to come. Consider what it will be like if this continues. <br /><br />http://www.agriculture.com/news/crops/we-lost-the-western-kansas-wheat-crop-this-weekend<br /><br />As far as the bogus 97% consensus. In short, it should have been 100% of the scientists because the UN's IPCC hand picked 100% of them. The Heartland Institute alone has a list of 37000+ scientists that say that AGW doesn't exist. I'm thinking that would put a dent in the 97% number. It's just propaganda or as we call it in the US; Public Relations. <br /><br />Professor Mass- Skiing and your blog is what made me obsessed with climate and weather. Thank you for doing what you do. You do it so well!Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14973405821959168731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-77439320844032514312017-05-03T06:41:23.056-07:002017-05-03T06:41:23.056-07:00One releases sequestered carbon and one has a pote...One releases sequestered carbon and one has a potential for more heat to be trapped.<br /><br />Lots of complexity with climates variables.. BUT one must keep simple facts simple.<br /><br />More atmospheric carbon, means more avalible heat trapped.<br /><br />Simple science, one can not argue.<br /><br />Now, will the planet warm or cool in a linear fashion? Likely not, many many variables, and speculative science.<br /><br />Heck, a grand solar minumum, along with a big volcanic eruption, and say toss in a small comet striking Earth would put an end to the trend of warming.<br /><br />However, fact is fact. More carbon in the atmosphere means more trapped available heat. <br /><br />Go ahead and debate wether that is good, bad or indifferent.<br /><br />Won't even complicate things with real heat trapping gasses, like methane from cattle,.and melting polar deposits.<br /><br />The fact that climate change is not very predictable, is why our species should error on the side of caution.!!!<br /><br />Simple<br /><br />Organic Farmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08694548750704036717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-17750683945040868392017-05-03T02:38:19.905-07:002017-05-03T02:38:19.905-07:00Matt. You mean it didn't go to your preconceiv...Matt. You mean it didn't go to your preconceived views. Recheck your premises. Science isn't about preconceived views. The data leads where it may. Read up on sunspots and the solar cycles and their current states.<br /> Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02059221822159483655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9977515732563458592017-05-03T00:24:15.348-07:002017-05-03T00:24:15.348-07:00The consensus is 47%.
http://fabiusmaximus.com/20...The consensus is 47%.<br /><br />http://fabiusmaximus.com/2015/07/29/new-study-undercuts-ipcc-keynote-finding-87796/<br /><br />But it doesn't much matter what the consensus is. I included it solely to answer the question without evasion. In reality, there are many RECENT cases of the "scientific consensus" being overurned. Here's one close to home. It's a great story.<br /><br />http://www.detectingdesign.com/harlenbretz.html<br /><br />The great mistake made by the AGW cult was to coalesce around a single hypothesis too soon. They became wedded to it for funding, and found it impossible to back away even as contrary evidence accumulated. They should have heeded T.C. Chamberlin. Now it's too late. AGW <i>will</i> come tumbling down for all to see, but the groupthink and outright chicanery has been so strong that the damage to science in general and environmentalism in particular is going to be very large.<br /><br />http://www.gly.uga.edu/railsback/railsback_chamberlin.htmlPlaceholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02967627809480888708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-21258823754416893722017-05-02T23:28:51.020-07:002017-05-02T23:28:51.020-07:00Thank you @Paul @J I'm originally from the &qu...Thank you @Paul @J I'm originally from the "Show-Me" state and I don't believe anything big NOAA or big (whoever the leader of climate change religion is). I do believe in what my senses can discern from satellite and non-biased temp. recording. There are a great deal of weather scientists out there who (in secret) question what they are supposed to believe (AGW) because they'd be shunned if they didn't. It takes a lot of guts to speak up for what you think (in past ages, people have been hung, burned at the stake, guillotined, for having ideas that were not mainstream (for the sheeple). Cliff...your blog is most excellent. I won't stop viewing anytime soon.wharmon29https://www.blogger.com/profile/01538202554056873425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-25738696307465806342017-05-02T21:07:39.053-07:002017-05-02T21:07:39.053-07:00It seems that as soon as you report on some cooler...It seems that as soon as you report on some cooler weather, the Global Cooling "advocates" come out to "educate" us. <br /><br />This confusion between weather and short-term climate variation and long-term climate change is challenging for some. Or why global temperatures can continue to increase despite some localities having unusually cold weather for a period of time. <br /><br />Things get crazy when a planetary-scope system is destabilizing. <br /><br />John Marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08271037292493818827noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-37333213774458251312017-05-02T20:33:42.322-07:002017-05-02T20:33:42.322-07:00@ Paul - The average date of last snowfall in Denv...@ Paul - The average date of last snowfall in Denver is April 26th. 2.4 inches was recorded at KDEN on the 29th. It was a typical event. Don't just throw out random cold weather events without including context about how anomalous they are or are not.<br /><br />I am interested to see evidence that backs up your claim that the 97% consensus is nonsense. What is it instead, maybe 90%?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-82785163668835507552017-05-02T20:03:13.889-07:002017-05-02T20:03:13.889-07:00Wow. Can't wait for a new post. This one went ...Wow. Can't wait for a new post. This one went wacko.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16177881248338574850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-30219931431708437022017-05-02T15:11:21.004-07:002017-05-02T15:11:21.004-07:00@wharmon29 - It's nice to find others that hav...@wharmon29 - It's nice to find others that have done a little research to find out why things are happening as they have this past year. <br /><br />I find it a little humorous but a bit concerning how so many folks are completely ignoring the possibility that they have been duped by the AGW crowd. Please look at some of this year's past events and understand that these are NOT occurring as a result of AGW or "climate change" as per the AGW's definition of climate change. <br /><br />https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-05-02/cattle-futures-beef-price-soar-after-blizzard-clobbers-midwest<br /><br />http://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/796517/Weather-forecast-snow-arctic-blast-freeze-Britain-cold-air-UK<br /><br />Look at the false spring that hit S. Carolina and wiped out much of the peach crop for this year from the area.<br /><br />Look at the continued snow and cold temps that have hit much of the western USA.<br /><br />Look at the 12" of snow that just shut down the Climate March in Denver Co. last weekend.<br /><br />Look at the winter blizzard that just hit the midwest that will raise the price of wheat substantially. <br /><br />Look at the latest opening of Highway 20 - North Cascades Highway. Not just due to the amount of snow this year but the colder temps that have delayed the melt.<br /><br />In late April, it was been so cold in Switzerland that farmers there have introduced frost protection with fire buckets in Swiss vineyards during the night to protect the vines against the deadly frost.<br /><br />The unusual cold weather and heavy snow downed trees and created travel chaos in eastern Europe as nations from Romania to Moldova and Ukraine were the latest countries to experience the false spring of 2017.<br />https://www.facebook.com/WeatherNatureWorld/videos/1397813410242077/?pnref=story<br /><br />Wake up folks. You have been duped and now we are facing a Grand Solar Minimum and no one wants to believe that it will cool our earth because every year we hear that this year is the hottest year on record. Use your brain and do some research instead accepting the popular belief that there is no possibility of Global Cooling. There are many physicists, scientist and climatologists that say that this is exactly what is happening. Some of these scientists are from MIT. The 97% consensus is utter nonsense. <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14973405821959168731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-13901629098945715962017-05-02T11:43:36.533-07:002017-05-02T11:43:36.533-07:00Hawaii Is doomed! It is the coming of the next ice...Hawaii Is doomed! It is the coming of the next ice age! Oh-no!Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05823060129044645985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-89866473196462715912017-05-02T11:35:50.093-07:002017-05-02T11:35:50.093-07:00We're on the big island and it was, indeed, a ...We're on the big island and it was, indeed, a rainy, cooler weekend. A couple thunderstorms passed by as well. Not too much in the way of wind - we drove out to the southern coast to watch the storm and were a tad disappointed - just a normal level of beautiful waves crashing on magnificent lava structures :-)<br /><br />Watching the radar, Oahu got even more rain than us from the Kona low. An interesting weather weekend all around.Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703540801833479965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-75154228359641106152017-05-02T11:34:01.165-07:002017-05-02T11:34:01.165-07:00And thank you Wes...finally someone speaking and u...And thank you Wes...finally someone speaking and using their 5 senses!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097807891329244609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-92090821479293844082017-05-02T11:31:51.403-07:002017-05-02T11:31:51.403-07:00Hmmm....nothing to see here right? As the Sun mov...Hmmm....nothing to see here right? As the Sun moves into its cooling phase and the cosmic rays begin to bombard our planet, increased cloud cover and therefore cooling temps will prevail...nothing to see here in Hawaii though...just a once in a historical record event...hmmmAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06097807891329244609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-42962638198784440512017-05-02T11:17:36.743-07:002017-05-02T11:17:36.743-07:00We are heading into a cool period similar to the l...We are heading into a cool period similar to the late 1940s through the early 1970s. It will be fun to watch the global warming cult deal with it.Placeholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02967627809480888708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-82881854161628508072017-05-02T10:37:30.078-07:002017-05-02T10:37:30.078-07:00Dave, Yes, I am rooting for a continental-style t...Dave, Yes, I am rooting for a continental-style thunderstorm... we don't get many! Wondering how it can be 75 degrees and cloudy this time of year.Anselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835758313287462921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-89254963577506681172017-05-02T07:41:27.416-07:002017-05-02T07:41:27.416-07:00Off-Topic wrt Hawaii, but I am looking forward to ...Off-Topic wrt Hawaii, but I am looking forward to a write-up about the two-day heat wave/thunderstorm spectacular we are about to have here in Seattle. I love thunderstorms.Dave Edsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03824145760426590331noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-69540287629628979882017-05-02T07:15:09.920-07:002017-05-02T07:15:09.920-07:00Wharmon2 & Cliff
XKCD posted this graphic las...Wharmon2 & Cliff<br /><br />XKCD posted this graphic last September showing the average Earth temperature since the last Ice Age. It shows gradual changes in temperature from 20,000 BCE until just after 1900 and a steep increase in temperature since the mid-20th century. Is the graphic accurate?<br /><br />https://www.xkcd.com/1732/<br />http://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1732:_Earth_Temperature_Timeline<br /><br /><br /><br />WQRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00298263441172358442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-3001245013452030822017-05-02T02:37:02.578-07:002017-05-02T02:37:02.578-07:00Hi Cliff. I've been viewing your blogs for sev...Hi Cliff. I've been viewing your blogs for several years and you do a great job! I love your insight. I saw this event with Hawaii shaping up on satellite and I couldn't believe it...very strange. I don't subscribe to the global climate change/(word of the year) religion. I'm an amateur meteorologist and weather/climate fascinates me. I think this has more to do with global cooling. Lowest sunspot count in 100 years and headed into solar minimum. Not to mention weakest solar maximum in 100 years. I think it's only going to get stranger. In modern times, we've never witnessed such strange events. I like to monitor world weather events on iceagenow.info and the cold this Spring on Italy's vineyards has me concerned. Keep up the great work and remember God gave us a brain for a good reason (to use it). Thanks Cliff, -Wes in Coloradowharmon29https://www.blogger.com/profile/01538202554056873425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-72088958705780030452017-05-01T20:41:13.336-07:002017-05-01T20:41:13.336-07:00Hey Cliff, wanted to hijack this thread to ask whe...Hey Cliff, wanted to hijack this thread to ask whether you've looked at the model instabilities and CAPE values for the lowlands on Thursday afternoon/evening. I would imagine most forecasters are in "believe it when I see it" mode, but even if the actual numbers turn out to be half of what the models forecast, widespread and rather strong thunderstorms still seem like a good bet. <br /><br />Hoping you have time for a blog post on the topic. Thanks!Foohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03929520923930532337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9952560536665282022017-05-01T19:18:41.046-07:002017-05-01T19:18:41.046-07:00Strange days indeed.....Strange days indeed.....codetalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04024436146473451518noreply@blogger.com