tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post7529713237907922172..comments2024-03-28T23:07:35.632-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: A New Weather Concern: The Slush FreezeCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger68125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90876314134141842332022-01-03T23:44:04.830-08:002022-01-03T23:44:04.830-08:00MacD... I agree. It's phenomenal, inexplicabl...MacD... I agree. It's phenomenal, inexplicable, and, I think, historically unprecedented.Anselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835758313287462921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90725005874289809252022-01-03T23:39:26.393-08:002022-01-03T23:39:26.393-08:00Eric... Not sure I agree. I went to college in Gu...Eric... Not sure I agree. I went to college in Gunnison, Colorado, and most of the winter, it was so cold the ice wasn't that slippery. To be fair, although we don't get a lot of practice here (except for skiers), the fact that it hovers near the freezing point does make Seattle's snow driving more challenging.<br /><br />And while Denver and Salt Lake sit next to the mountains, the cities themselves are flatter than Seattle.Anselhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13835758313287462921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-32780784820551796252022-01-01T14:49:16.925-08:002022-01-01T14:49:16.925-08:00No evidence from "Spoken." Typical Democ...No evidence from "Spoken." Typical Democratic government employee, making up falsehoods. Placeholderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02967627809480888708noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-35919416351424199422021-12-31T23:13:26.371-08:002021-12-31T23:13:26.371-08:00$50 for a set of chains is way cheaper than $750 m...$50 for a set of chains is way cheaper than $750 missing work!Forresthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02998930388160205951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-60348629694698337092021-12-31T18:49:00.655-08:002021-12-31T18:49:00.655-08:00How does 1 to 3 inches mean 0 to 8? That makes no ...How does 1 to 3 inches mean 0 to 8? That makes no sense at all. NWS has been completely off on timing and snowfall totals and while forecasting is much better than it used to be its still inaccurate.Dmarthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05187248560236298057noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90628387015583521502021-12-31T16:56:04.646-08:002021-12-31T16:56:04.646-08:00"In a release Friday, Boulder County official..."In a release Friday, Boulder County officials said Xcel Energy inspected the ignition area near Marshall Road and Colo. 93 and did not find any downed power lines. There were damaged communication lines, which investigators said could not have started the fire but likely were mistaken for power lines by witnesses.<br /><br />The cause of the fire remains under investigation."BATTLEFINCHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09960023649219767737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-46999392814450875932021-12-31T15:30:38.727-08:002021-12-31T15:30:38.727-08:00Prescribed burns and proactive clearing of dead ve...Prescribed burns and proactive clearing of dead vegetation are known to reduce the speed and intensity of fires by diminishing the stock of combustible material, but federal and state agencies have long put a monomaniacal emphasis on suppression, rather than prevention, of fires. MacDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622720894426859083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-63403221176783181612021-12-31T15:05:12.779-08:002021-12-31T15:05:12.779-08:00It would be awesome if these comments wouldn't...It would be awesome if these comments wouldn't evolve into partisan politics constantly. It's a weather blog.MacDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00622720894426859083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-26865758783675264842021-12-31T14:54:05.622-08:002021-12-31T14:54:05.622-08:00Glass half empty, or glass half full? In contrast ...Glass half empty, or glass half full? In contrast to the naysayers here, I am astonished by how accurate many aspects of weather forecasting have become. The timing of precip events is one of them. The Christmas Day dinner I gave at my house came with a warning -- I notified everyone a day in advance that they should be off the street by 8 pm, when the temps would likely be cold enuf for snow to stick. At 6:30pm, everyone grabbed up the leftovers and left. Perfect timing, as it turned out. And this accuracy is common. Read the predictions from NOAA, NWS, atmospheric scientists' blogs, Accuweather, etc and you can plan events in advance. 60 years ago in Seattle, the only sure thing was rain in November and sun in August. Dee Aurorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18417626591528220601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-60131342424110768992021-12-31T14:33:26.426-08:002021-12-31T14:33:26.426-08:00Jessica, if you've ever visited cities like De...Jessica, if you've ever visited cities like Denver or Salt Lake city, you'd be well aware of the hills and mountains that surround these areas, so landscape has nothing to do with preparedness. Not..at..all. Eric Blairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09376653214948517679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-40166173758036629102021-12-31T13:45:08.991-08:002021-12-31T13:45:08.991-08:00Lol at the ridiculousness of our country. Vaccin...Lol at the ridiculousness of our country. Vaccinations and the weather are now dictated by politics. <br /><br />Cliff - thanks for all you do. I have started hearings rumblings that warm weather may be delayed and we may see some snow Monday and Tuesday? Any traction on that (no pun intended)? Or should we expect any more snow from the long term forecasts? We keep forgetting that we aren't even into out normal period for snow...<br /><br />Thanks Again!The Law Office of Robert M Dunphyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965630440506564059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-62101927757299610932021-12-31T13:40:56.208-08:002021-12-31T13:40:56.208-08:00There are far too many political references mostly...There are far too many political references mostly because there always seems to be a need for someone to blame for all the petty grievances. Or for the large, difficult to quantify events. Well, sometimes "Sh*t Happens". There is still quite a bit of random chaos in the Universe which implies its best to prepare for, as well as accept it. In opposition to complaining about it and seeking never ending blame. The ultimate in the blame game is of course blaming the opposite of whatever political tribe of hoodlums you subscribe to. Our weather could not be a more perfect analog for how a little bit of chaos finds its way into our ordered lives. There also seems to be quite a bit of sensibility/common sense that has been lost, supplanted by an ever growing sense of entitlement and just being generally pissed off about EVERYTHING.<br /><br />As far as this snow/ice/cold? Its been nice to enjoy a bit of down time when the roads have been impassible. BAMCIShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05285865892838328830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11385976239664806222021-12-31T13:12:43.093-08:002021-12-31T13:12:43.093-08:00I agree. So many people not following the posted r...I agree. So many people not following the posted rules for comments: "Please make sure your comments are civil. Name calling and personal attacks are not appropriate."<br /> <br />Making personal attacks is easy. Whining is easy. And it's a total waste of time. On the other hand, science is hard. But so many rewards for understanding the scientific perspective, for learning about nature. Establishing the probability of weather events is one of them. <br /><br />Cliff shows an insane amount of patience on this blog. Practice from being a professor? <br /><br />Dee Aurorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18417626591528220601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-18910432296017307042021-12-31T12:34:36.028-08:002021-12-31T12:34:36.028-08:00I say thanks to WSDOT, SDOT and the the Weather Se...I say thanks to WSDOT, SDOT and the the Weather Service. Complainers are big babies. Learn how to drive in snow, buy and use chains (good snow tires & skill are better), walk, use public transportation, use food delivery - most of all be prepared. My Seattle street has never been plowed in 40 years, I have no problems. Snow forecasts and snow removal has improved greatly on the main streets. As for the Weather Service - I say bravo, good job! Anybody that didn't know snow and cold was coming, wasn't paying attention. Some forecasts are much more confident than others, some forecast elements ( wind, cold, snow amounts, timing) have varying confidence over time. It's a forecast - a probability. The future is uncertain. powderboobahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05369487049237495702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-5832808356304881862021-12-31T11:41:07.221-08:002021-12-31T11:41:07.221-08:00Hank, the snow has lingered on the roads for five ...Hank, the snow has lingered on the roads for five days and counting. Cliff's post was a plea for governments to plow yesterday when temperatures rose above freezing -- a plea that was mostly ignored <br /><br />We disinvest in our roads despite paying the second highest gas tax in the nation. It is clear that politics drives this disinvestment, more specifically that our political leaders deprioritize transportation continuity. It is worth talking about *why* the roads are still nasty, and how that it's a result of choices we make, not that it's just impossible to craft effective snow removal procedures.<br /><br />There are places in the world hillier than Seattle that don't tolerate impassable roads for a week every two or three years.herrbrahmshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08308204686231352936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-67384843582809990512021-12-31T11:05:54.680-08:002021-12-31T11:05:54.680-08:00How about buy some decent tires or chains? I'v...How about buy some decent tires or chains? I've been driving around with no problems all week. If you cant afford to miss work because of snow why arent you prepared with chains?Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08000178598803800690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-43789793736546537642021-12-31T09:21:17.639-08:002021-12-31T09:21:17.639-08:00"On the sixth day of powder, my true love gav..."On the sixth day of powder, my true love gave to me"....say, Cliff, I have been in the lowlands of Central Puget Sound for 40 years and can never remember six consecutive days of dry, powdered snow. Did I miss something? I was in Edmonds for 30 years and now South Whidbey. Seems to be the same convergence zone where we usually don't get cheated during lowland snow events. But dry, wafting snowfalls seem to never lead to half a foot of dry snow on the ground for multiple days. Thoughts? Also, the snow's beginning late Christmas night missed by a few hours the exact 25th anniversary hour of the Christmas 1996 snowfall, which started in Edmonds that night about 11:00. kevinlynch1https://www.blogger.com/profile/11900427711172659276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-28765557641562686962021-12-31T09:12:07.383-08:002021-12-31T09:12:07.383-08:00What happened from a historical perspective was po...What happened from a historical perspective was power lines were built on a fire landscape and when a rare wind event happened they sparked a fire on a newly constructed city.Rules For Reasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00104205497366396894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-29407779944848408352021-12-31T06:59:51.623-08:002021-12-31T06:59:51.623-08:00Why are we making the weather political now?Why are we making the weather political now?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02559019218712558124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-90162753509771825492021-12-30T23:01:40.604-08:002021-12-30T23:01:40.604-08:00In fairness, the snowy states know what to do beca...In fairness, the snowy states know what to do because they’ve had all of forever to live with it and adapt to it. And also, they’re landscape is much different than ours. I can’t envision the best equipped plow navigating some of the terrain around here, but luckily it only happens once or twice a year. Keep pressure on government for sure, but understand that it will take more than one season to adapt to what snowy states know by heart. Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17671750945060377685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-68838641506782756522021-12-30T22:04:15.585-08:002021-12-30T22:04:15.585-08:00I can't believe it gets so political on a weat...I can't believe it gets so political on a weather blog, go somewhere else to comment about that. And be here to discuss weather, not whine about the other political side. <br /><br /><br />Its cliff mass WEATHER BLOG, not how some of you think it is, cliff mass POLITICS BLOG.<br /><br />Come on guys... your better than that...Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13539379268897241128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-79581527951435264612021-12-30T21:59:20.311-08:002021-12-30T21:59:20.311-08:00Even though I'm from Salem, thank you for your...Even though I'm from Salem, thank you for your service!<br /><br /><br />Without yall the roads would be practically impossible in these events.Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13539379268897241128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-83616930773764761362021-12-30T21:57:39.535-08:002021-12-30T21:57:39.535-08:0013 ¼ inches of Snow was my peak depth here in Sale...13 ¼ inches of Snow was my peak depth here in Salem, elevation 524.<br /><br />Much more than forecast and it was all with a south wind! And today when we finally got NE wind, it started raining.<br /><br />Weather can be crazy in the PNW.Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13539379268897241128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-20238252775241371502021-12-30T21:54:56.360-08:002021-12-30T21:54:56.360-08:00Jeezus man, people are losing lives, loved ones, p...Jeezus man, people are losing lives, loved ones, property, getting hurt, right now, and this is what you talk about?<br /><br />How bout you do something helpful, that will make you feel better.<br /><br />I donated 60 dollars to a shelter there. That's something helpful you can do from over 1k miles away. But what isn't helpful is this inappropriate comment.<br /><br /><br />I hope you're happy.<br /><br />Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13539379268897241128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-13272646123339030172021-12-30T21:52:51.539-08:002021-12-30T21:52:51.539-08:00Sounds like Democrat run cities really care about ...Sounds like Democrat run cities really care about their constituents!Qwertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00429690391444840673noreply@blogger.com