tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post7647082133198796709..comments2024-03-28T03:08:44.068-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Ice Storm: Freezing Rain and SleetCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-72358134985665094792012-01-19T14:52:03.026-08:002012-01-19T14:52:03.026-08:00Over here on the west side of Bainbridge Island, i...Over here on the west side of Bainbridge Island, it definitely is not "the end." At 2:45 p.m. on the 19th, we still have white fluffy stuff coming down from the sky. Not rain. Not sleet. S-N-O-W. It has been falling slowly but steadily most of the day and shows no signs of stopping or turning to rain. There is nary a puff of wind, so it seems whatever weather is sitting right over us will be here for a while.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11675752068641429173noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-92063941214695776962012-01-19T12:17:31.268-08:002012-01-19T12:17:31.268-08:00Speaking of 1996 and ice storms..I was living in C...Speaking of 1996 and ice storms..I was living in Coeur d'Alene when on Nov.19 we had "Ice Storm '96." People living in outlying areas were without power for weeks. Fortunately I lived just a few blocks from power co.office and was without power for just a few hours.<br /><br />Good call,Cliff,on what this storm would do,for the most part.I just started getting onto your blogs about Monday. I don't know what I was waiting for.Rob Keenanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01143872191394188551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-26916702109585692942012-01-19T12:15:21.483-08:002012-01-19T12:15:21.483-08:00Cathcart Clearview --snowing steady all day --up t...Cathcart Clearview --snowing steady all day --up to a foot and a half nowJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16932823369513250872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-24965085833881152142012-01-19T11:53:24.061-08:002012-01-19T11:53:24.061-08:00I live in Mukilteo near the Harbour Pointe Golf Co...I live in Mukilteo near the Harbour Pointe Golf Course.Since Tuesday there have been 9 inches of mostly dry snow.There was 2 inches Saturday and about a half inch Sunday night.What's notable about this is that since the winter of 1998-99 I've gone periodically to Coeur d'Alene in North Idaho-including for Thanksgiving and Christmas. In all that time this is the first time this late in the winter I've seen more snow here-lots more-than there.Rob Keenanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01143872191394188551noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-83652675790351732022012-01-19T11:45:24.858-08:002012-01-19T11:45:24.858-08:00I was wrong, after measuring it myself, we have ov...I was wrong, after measuring it myself, we have over 1/2 inch ice on top of everything here in Spanaway and Puyallup area. Its been freezing non stop now since 7am Wednesday morning. Temps still below freezing. Tonight is going to be a lot worse!Scott K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09543174609187989825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-69847961101705520752012-01-19T11:44:02.971-08:002012-01-19T11:44:02.971-08:00Thank you for continuing to provide evidence-based...Thank you for continuing to provide evidence-based, sensationalist-free weather reporting. Your time, effort and skill are sincerely valued!Bjoryxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02649547461082383259noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-34610084274079123432012-01-19T11:41:31.688-08:002012-01-19T11:41:31.688-08:00Thank you for your posts, I am new to Seattle from...Thank you for your posts, I am new to Seattle from the east coast and am a big fan.<br />In North Cap Hill now it's snowing real snow for the moment.<br />But most importantly, can you tell us if you found your dog? I hope so!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08985911691541790159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-65545151020056341912012-01-19T11:38:13.961-08:002012-01-19T11:38:13.961-08:00Unknown, I would cancel if it were me. I'm on ...Unknown, I would cancel if it were me. I'm on Phinney and we're getting a steady sleety snow. I don't see how the roads will be in good shape by this afternoon even if it does start to rain later today. My guess is that it will take time for the ice to clear up, and freezing slush is dangerous as well. You can always reschedule.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00163273331909611145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-646126006141010752012-01-19T11:36:09.036-08:002012-01-19T11:36:09.036-08:00Cliff, I have recently "discovered" you ...Cliff, I have recently "discovered" you and am thrilled that I have. You take meterology to a whole new level for the layman. The interesting and detailed information that you provide is unparalled. Thank you! I'm now a huge fan.Maria Faires, RD Registered Dietitian & Certified Personal Trainerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06987690875956231742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-23253623027616780302012-01-19T11:28:40.567-08:002012-01-19T11:28:40.567-08:00an awful lot of people unhappy with me for my prev...an awful lot of people unhappy with me for my previous posts.<br /><br />how's today's forecast working out for you? <br /><br />on TV, all the talking heads are saying some variation of, "We didn't see this coming...or lasting this long...or being this severe..."<br /><br />i guess not.<br /><br />NWS just extended the ice storm warning...again. <br /><br />i'm sure the transition will occur at some time. right now, it's snowing outside.<br /><br />perhaps tomorrow......eastside kidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17560247814721917307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-28845131724449851512012-01-19T11:21:26.866-08:002012-01-19T11:21:26.866-08:00I-90 is closed indefinitely... http://www.dailyrec...I-90 is closed indefinitely... http://www.dailyrecordnews.com/news/westbound-i--closed-at-cle-elum-and-ellensburg/article_84d70bde-42d0-11e1-bce5-0019bb2963f4.html<br /><br />How does the Ellensburg Daily Record get the scoop on WSDOT?Thompsonizedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502838763091809393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9728195120922296892012-01-19T11:18:00.358-08:002012-01-19T11:18:00.358-08:00Had 6-7 inches of snow on south Vashon yesterday. ...Had 6-7 inches of snow on south Vashon yesterday. Now have at least 1/2 inch of ice on everything. Branches are cracking off the trees and power keeps going down and coming back on. We should be losing power soon, unfortunately. Hope little Leah finds shelter somewhere. The snow might flush her out where she can be seen more readily.wanne1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17194227873777012011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-26721645927947341072012-01-19T11:15:51.613-08:002012-01-19T11:15:51.613-08:00A mix of freezing rain, snow and sleet on top of t...A mix of freezing rain, snow and sleet on top of the 4" of snow we got in Queen Anne. NWS now saying that the temperature won't rise above freezing until tonight. I'm wondering when it'll be warm enough to melt the wintry mix on the roads, and if it's still going to get into the mid-40's tomorrow.<br /><br />By the way, thanks Cliff, for all of your timely blogging on this. It's been a tremendous help, and it's been fascinating to see the evolving weather, forecasts, and people's reactions to it. Even though the forecasts haven't been perfect, they've been, on the whole, quite accurate, which is a big change from the old snowstorms in 1986 and 1996, which always seemed to take the NWS by surprise. <br /><br />I, too, hope your dog is okay! Hopefully, she'll be more willing to go inside a building where you can be contacted, and get her.<br /><br />-- RichardEbenezerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17105475236728081779noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-71970389976355478372012-01-19T11:14:14.216-08:002012-01-19T11:14:14.216-08:00Interesting post, Cliff ~ thank you! Freezing rai...Interesting post, Cliff ~ thank you! Freezing rain is more common up here (north Whatcom County) ~ apparently when the warm air comes in over the icy Fraser Valley blasts we have that "perfect storm". We may face that in the next day or two, but at the moment it's overcast and dry with wind chill still in the single digits. Hoping to feel warmer again soon...Colleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04850024758134899093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-78418834257819889842012-01-19T11:09:48.517-08:002012-01-19T11:09:48.517-08:00Dear Unknown:
Don't cancel the meeting...just...Dear Unknown:<br /><br />Don't cancel the meeting...just reschedule it... If you're worried about it now... that's the conservative alternative... and no one can fault you for being careful. Want to see the opposite? Just reference "Italian cruise liner"...Big Wavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12818648672772663106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-74488254477687512772012-01-19T11:07:03.835-08:002012-01-19T11:07:03.835-08:00Olympia now has an inch of ice on 16 inches of sno...Olympia now has an inch of ice on 16 inches of snow, trees are increasingly burdened, breaking.epjmcginleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567003877042810718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-19364249469427775402012-01-19T11:01:09.479-08:002012-01-19T11:01:09.479-08:00Unkown,
Check out the live chat about weather and...Unkown,<br /><br />Check out the live chat about weather and road conditions on the Seattle Times website. Quite informative.SE Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05537722194376827564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11738128405795215942012-01-19T10:58:18.752-08:002012-01-19T10:58:18.752-08:00Here in Loyal Heights (located between Ballard and...Here in Loyal Heights (located between Ballard and Crown Hill) it has mostly been snowing for an hour or two, but now it seems to be mixing with freezing rain also. It was mostly freezing rain earlier in the morning.<br /><br />The temp is still below 31 degrees, so I don't think we'll get a high temp of 36 degrees today, but I could be wrong. It was colder last night than had been initially predicted by noaa. I have to wonder if it will really warm up all that much tomarrow. Could there still be ice and snow on the ground (and some of the roadways) for most of the day tomarrow?Enochhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08369786606235804817noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-64297857612179446782012-01-19T10:56:35.924-08:002012-01-19T10:56:35.924-08:00Help! I am responsible for determining whether or ...Help! I am responsible for determining whether or not to cancel an important meeting this evening. We're in Greenlake, with folks coming from the North End, but also West Seattle and Beacon Hill. I'm holding out hope for the thaw....Am I crazy? Should I just go ahead and call it now, or wait until the afternoon? What would be your professional opinion?Seattle Penguinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12600382085772646039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-11369517039572485832012-01-19T10:56:31.923-08:002012-01-19T10:56:31.923-08:00There is an interesting quirk with the Detailed Po...There is an interesting quirk with the Detailed Point Forecast provided by the NWS website . There are three forecast zones that meet in the North Kitsap Peninsula from near Kingston up to Hansville. This can present some potential problems. <br /><br />Clicking on points that are located on the east side of the peninsula from Kingston nearly all the way to Hansville, there are no warnings whatsoever. One grid square to the west, "Ice Storm Warning" is posted. This part of the peninsula is two grid squares wide from east to west. <br /><br />I've encountered this a few times before because I live very close to the border between zones. In my case -- I am in the non-warning zone, yet if I click one square north or one square west I see the warnings. My forecast zone is Everett and Vicinity, while immediately north and west is the Hood Canal zone and south of Kingston is the Seattle-Bremerton Zone. <br /><br />I realize the zones need to have borders somewhere, but here, this great a transition does bother me. Had I just checked my local zone (in my favorites) and not checked your blog and other sources, I may not have known that anywhere I could possibly want to drive to would be within the Ice Storm Warning zone (and I don't usually check the detailed point forecast for locations several miles away). Also, our power and emergency service providers come from the Ice Storm Warning zones. <br /><br />Something as simple as an alert stating "Adjacent to Warning Area" or "Warning Nearby" would be enough to prompt further investigation. <br /><br />10:55 update 2 mi S of Hansville: snowing moderately 1" new since 9 am, freezing rain holding off. Still 27F.sandy knollerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09029954184661114245noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-14150827333666998482012-01-19T10:53:29.407-08:002012-01-19T10:53:29.407-08:00Hi Cliff, I noticed that you enjoy using terms lik...Hi Cliff, I noticed that you enjoy using terms like "SLUSHMAGEDDON" in your (fun!) posts about how Seattle deals with snow and ice. Just for fun, I've been thinking up new ones, and came up with ICECHATON, a twist of "eschaton," the term for the end of the world. Corny? Yeah. But something to do when stuck at home as Seattle endures an ICECHATON! :)Stephen Crippenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14165090929731469064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-64667186795288376052012-01-19T10:49:52.901-08:002012-01-19T10:49:52.901-08:00No ice here in Kingston. But snowing vigorously fo...No ice here in Kingston. But snowing vigorously for the last few hours - we've added a few inches to the 6" on the ground from yesterday. Am hoping we go from snow to rain gracefully without ice storms here. Cliff, will we? <br /><br />I grew up in East Portland and am all too familiar with Silver Thaws. Pretty, but impossible to be out in on foot or car. Unless you are wearing crampons or driving with studs. But then the danger is the idiot who thinks they can drive in these conditions who decides to t-bone you! Or falling tree limbs (or trees themselves!) and power lines and sometimes the heavy ice itself! A 3" in diameter piece of ice a foot long dropping 100' packs quite a whallop!<br /><br />Speaking of stupidity I tried watching the local affiliate news coverage of this storm. It seems to me that driving a vehicle while a live TV camera is pointed at you and you are talking to that camera is about as or more dangerous as driving while texting - even in good driving conditions - much less the conditions outside right now. This activity is a new level of stupidity exhibited by the local news stations and should probably be outlawed, given the dangers it poses to other drivers and pedestrians. It also sets a really bad example.<br /><br />On the other hand, I am expecting a few of these to end up on YouTube when they inevitably crash (one reporter did say she drove up onto a curb the day before - yet she was driving and broadcasting; she hadn't learned her lesson). Who knows? Jim Foreman or one of the other Weather Talking Heads could even end up with a Darwin Award for this reckless behavior!<br /><br />KWKenna Wickmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02802821050975830973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-43556691518789831932012-01-19T10:46:13.986-08:002012-01-19T10:46:13.986-08:00Cliff, I really enjoy your blog. Please keep it u...Cliff, I really enjoy your blog. Please keep it up. I have learned so much about the weather and how it works from you. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's interesting to see how different the weather can be in different areas and why. I wish I could take one of your classes at UW to learn more from you. :)Laura T.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05443155235184063912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-84063627823017439502012-01-19T10:36:48.680-08:002012-01-19T10:36:48.680-08:00Poulsbo 10:30 am: snow (not ice)30 degrees, wind5-...Poulsbo 10:30 am: snow (not ice)30 degrees, wind5-6mph N-NEdabobmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15088823374636065720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-31278659245526312112012-01-19T10:25:58.481-08:002012-01-19T10:25:58.481-08:00Thank you once again. So interesting to learn more...Thank you once again. So interesting to learn more about ice storms here in PNW. Different than what I remember growing up in north Florida - everything covered in a layer of ice. Stay safe!cedar13https://www.blogger.com/profile/02898974387580397120noreply@blogger.com