tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post7947242696507996289..comments2024-03-28T03:08:44.068-07:00Comments on Cliff Mass Weather Blog: Snow BlindnessCliff Mass Weather Bloghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comBlogger72125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-7894029759575450832009-02-28T12:02:00.000-08:002009-02-28T12:02:00.000-08:00We are definitely getting strong-ish easterlies he...We are definitely getting strong-ish easterlies here in teh cascade foothills. It was exactly this way last weekend, also. <BR/><BR/>I understand that descending air is compressed and warms but wondered if anyone could answer why it should be warmer than where it started (i.e. in eastern WA). That is, the air starts out cold, rises and cools some more (as it travels over the cascades), then descends and warms back up. But shouldn't its temp just return to the temp at which it started (which was presumed cold)? We had a day in early feb where it reached the mid sixties in Monroe.<BR/><BR/>Also, in my experience strong easterlies indicate the approaching storm will make a more direct hit on western WA than the models presently indicate (I could be totally wrong about this though...)<BR/><BR/>-Somewhere in Sultanseattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03227779859593151839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-25825088285781173042009-02-26T20:06:00.000-08:002009-02-26T20:06:00.000-08:00Re Metro's IT problem, I was thinking that it soun...Re Metro's IT problem, I was thinking that it sounded like insufficient server capacity was at least part of the problem.<BR/><BR/>I haven't seen any mention of the fact that the road cameras are a good source of info as to the weather at a given location. Washington and Oregon both have a great many road cams all over the states.<BR/><BR/>Washington: http://www.wsdot.wa.gov/traffic/<BR/><BR/>Oregon: http://www.tripcheck.com/Pages/CamerasEntry.asp<BR/><BR/>And, here's a cool webcam, at the top of Pikes Peak in Colorado. At night if it's clear you can see the lights of Colorado Springs.<BR/>http://www.springsgov.com/units/pikespeak/<BR/><BR/>- PeteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-70328317763205523012009-02-26T20:03:00.000-08:002009-02-26T20:03:00.000-08:00A little clip to help keep it all in perspective.....A little clip to help keep it all in perspective....Metro IT, radar problems.....<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoGYx35ypus<BR/><BR/>Keep smiling...Capt. Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00122175838195602092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-611580717932855222009-02-26T19:59:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:59:00.000-08:00To the ones who are kindly speaking on behalf of m...To the ones who are kindly speaking on behalf of me, I want to say thank you and I appreciate it as well.<BR/><BR/>In other weather news....today was pretty good. Got to see some sunshine this morning which made the snow on the tree look real nice and preaty. A good way to end the month of February. Seeing snow. The clear skies didn`t last long as skies became cloudy by early afternoon and my high barely reaching 40. Had a high of 38. <BR/><BR/>For any side streets and shade wet pavement areas, you folks who do the early commute may find it icy. But should be back in the 40`s for tomorrow.andycottlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696751462397354299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-51659159881400926202009-02-26T19:34:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:34:00.000-08:00Cliff: "Everyone can have their say on the blog..j...Cliff: "Everyone can have their say on the blog..just stick to weather and the occasional commentary on how we adapt/deal with it..."<BR/><BR/>But if someone questions the weather-related terminology you use, you tell them to stop. Why can't they have their say too??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-78773654580630160622009-02-26T19:31:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:31:00.000-08:00hey, at least people aren't arguing about what's "...hey, at least people aren't arguing about what's "nice" vs. not "nice" right now! :)<BR/><BR/>Andy, I appreciate your comments... ignore the people who tell you to go away.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-22578287100663910952009-02-26T19:30:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:30:00.000-08:00All, Please stop all this interpersonal stuff. ...All,<BR/> Please stop all this interpersonal stuff. Everyone can have their say on the blog..just stick to weather and the occasional commentary on how we adapt/deal with it...<BR/><BR/>Some good news:<BR/><BR/>(1) the radar has been fixed<BR/><BR/>(2) metro called me and said they would fix the problem...insufficient server capacity.<BR/><BR/>..cliffCliff Mass Weather Bloghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13948649423540350788noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-45600815487414927182009-02-26T19:24:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:24:00.000-08:00Re: The Metro tracker ... my understanding is that...Re: The Metro tracker ... my understanding is that it's a hardware issue. In order for the tracker to do anything reasonable during a reroute (due to adverse weather, construction, etc), they'd need to install GPS on all the buses - which would take time and money, so it's not something we're likely to see in the near future given the low tax revenues due to the economic situation. I believe that the current tracker system just uses radio transponders that record when the buses arrive at certain major stops. They use that combined with historical data about how long the bus takes to get between stops to estimate where the bus is at any given time. This system falls apart when the bus is not on its regular route, because (1) it may miss some of the recorded stops, and (2) the time it takes to get between stops is more than the usual time. The tracker location view even says at the top that it is not reliable when buses are on reroute.<BR/><BR/>As a regular, 5-day-a-week bus commuter I would love to see this improved, but I don't expect it to be any time soon because Metro is already short of money and certainly can't afford a hardware update like this. I'd rather they use what money they do have to maintain their current service levels (there have been rumors of up to a 20% cut in bus service next year, which would mess up commutes 365 days a year, as opposed to the 5-10 snow days we typically get in a year).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-14112123670235442032009-02-26T19:23:00.001-08:002009-02-26T19:23:00.001-08:00I too am posting on behalf of Andy Cottle, He has ...I too am posting on behalf of Andy Cottle, He has just as much a right to post as any body else here, and frankly he adds more than most people here. So if you do not have anything more to do than complain about Andy you should post elsewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-88879060300383650282009-02-26T19:23:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:23:00.000-08:00How can some of you be so petty and childish when ...How can some of you be so petty and childish when it comes to putting down Andy...? If you have not noticed Andy has backed off on his "forecasting" input but still has the right to share on this blog. I enjoy his input and what he has to offer. He is not trying to forecast as much and just shares his thoughts as ALL of us do. He may not always be right but he is not always wrong either. This goes for all of us here. <BR/><BR/>PLEASE people calm down! Some level of maturity is a value that goes a long way.<BR/><BR/>Cliff I love this blog and I want to thank you for putting it up. I find it very informative.<BR/><BR/>Andy, I enjoy your input and knowledge. I think you have a lot to offer and appreciate your insight.Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03836049218472044548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-84120481320180735822009-02-26T19:16:00.000-08:002009-02-26T19:16:00.000-08:00Andycottle said...I like coming here to see Cliff`...Andycottle said...I like coming here to see Cliff`s daily comments on the weather and then posting about it. He always brings a lot of interesting info to his blog when time allows. He does a good job of doing so.<BR/><BR/>Andy....then comment about it...that's fine....but you don't just comment about it! When someone asks CLIFF a question, YOU answer it! And you don't just comment! You list your own "forcast", and usually when nobody even asks you for it! <BR/><BR/>Answer questions that people ask YOU. If you want to give YOUR forcast, do it on YOUR blog, not Cliffs!<BR/><BR/>And you're right....HE (meaning Cliff) always does bring a lot of interesting info to his blog when time allows. (and because we all understand that he is a busy man and we appreciate him taking time out of his day to teach us, etc. we are all willing to wait for HIS information and answers!)<BR/><BR/> Yes, CLIFF does do a good job! That's why we come to HIS blog!....to read HIS forcasts and have HIM answer our questions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-47959092790715318572009-02-26T17:33:00.000-08:002009-02-26T17:33:00.000-08:00Guys, calm down. You waste so much time and energy...Guys, calm down. You waste so much time and energy trying to put down Andy. He should be allowed to post like the rest of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-19384889535125317422009-02-26T17:20:00.000-08:002009-02-26T17:20:00.000-08:00For those who are wondering, Sea-Tac and the old D...For those who are wondering, Sea-Tac and the old Downtown Seattle weather stations have had measurable snow in April eleven times in the past 118 years of record, so it`s about a one in ten probability in any given year. For March, the odds are a little better--about once every three years.Looking at the current medium range models, I`d surmise that our chances this year are better than usual.Another snowfall in March would be a fitting coup de grace for this winter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-79697131039364958562009-02-26T17:16:00.000-08:002009-02-26T17:16:00.000-08:00Hey all you low self-esteem liberals, leave Andy a...Hey all you low self-esteem liberals, leave Andy alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-27884366340698312472009-02-26T17:14:00.000-08:002009-02-26T17:14:00.000-08:008" at 470' elev. in Port Angeles this morning.8" at 470' elev. in Port Angeles this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-54559470175789211742009-02-26T17:03:00.000-08:002009-02-26T17:03:00.000-08:00I will leave then..I will leave then..andycottlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696751462397354299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-44993436741362860862009-02-26T16:51:00.000-08:002009-02-26T16:51:00.000-08:00Andy Cottle is so very annoying! When will he ever...Andy Cottle is so very annoying! When will he ever go away!??!!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-26428203359787289612009-02-26T16:37:00.000-08:002009-02-26T16:37:00.000-08:00I am aware it`s Cliff`s blog and that he makes the...I am aware it`s Cliff`s blog and that he makes the forecasts, but as with anybody else on here, I like coming here to see Cliff`s daily comments on the weather and then posting about it. He always brings a lot of interesting info to his blog when time allows. He does a good job of doing so.<BR/><BR/>I don`t know everything about the weather. There is lots out there to know, and it would be hard for anyone to "know it all". It`s a field of science to continue learning about for anyone involved in the weather department. So that`s my answer.:o)andycottlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12696751462397354299noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-25684181369785653952009-02-26T16:31:00.000-08:002009-02-26T16:31:00.000-08:00Hey I love technology. Shoot Seattle is one of the...Hey I love technology. Shoot Seattle is one of the main tech places in the world. I read wired and I am gadget crazy. But it still is technology IE "It breaks down people" I love it when it fails us. It's like in Wall-E when everybody looks up from their screens for once. <BR/><BR/>We cry "why". My iphone said the bus should be here. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Oh well I just might need to think outside the box, or should I say computer. Shoot, better go, iphone battery almost out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-75796975550324753862009-02-26T16:09:00.000-08:002009-02-26T16:09:00.000-08:00Andycottle ~ I know you get tired of people gettin...Andycottle ~ I know you get tired of people getting on your case but really....This is Cliffs blog...HE makes the forcasts, we ask HIM questions and make comments to HIM! I thought you started your own blog so you could ramble all you want without any critisism? So why do you keep coming back here and annoying us? And, yes, I am annonymous....choose to keep it that way.....as do many others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-4791571799000910922009-02-26T16:07:00.000-08:002009-02-26T16:07:00.000-08:00My school was the only one that had a normal sched...My school was the only one that had a normal schedule :(CherryCherryBoomBoomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05532382861943628134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-75012160323350501702009-02-26T15:59:00.000-08:002009-02-26T15:59:00.000-08:00I too think that is about as late as it`s ever sno...I too think that is about as late as it`s ever snowed in the Puget Sound region. Early or mid-March at the latest. Though, think it has snowed in April here/there..(entry by andycottle)<BR/><BR/>Ummm...ya, Andy? Just last year we had about 3 inches of snow....On April 19th!! They cancelled baseball games because of it! I also remember back in 1982 waking up to about 3 inches of snow in the beginning of April. And last night on KING 5 news they said we have actually had measurable snow as late as May. I thought you were up on this stuff? You sound like you think you know it all in your comments/forcasts, anyway!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-48462474307543767442009-02-26T15:40:00.000-08:002009-02-26T15:40:00.000-08:00Yes, I am ready for the abundance of Spring, and f...Yes, I am ready for the abundance of Spring, and find these wintry blasts tiresome, to say the least.<BR/><BR/>Can Seattle get a bit more urban? All the qvetching about metro, they are and will continue to be lower-case. I agree that a sudden layoff for incompetency is too harsh right now - but let us go forward with optimism and acceptance of some of the great ideas seen (read?) here on CM's great blog. Given the craziness of our convergence zone problems here in the NW - can we bunk up with each other when things are dicey? My beloved will be staying where he works - yes, at cost, but also safety for he needs to work late and then start again early in the morning - cost? - worth every penny knowing he is safe. For those that rely (I'm sorry, believe me) on Metro, perhaps they can have a pajama party near where they need to be the next day (week?) and their neighbors, who care, can take in their children and watch after their pets until it is safe to return home - of course then we all have to cook overtime and exuberantly to repay the neighbors and friends for their nurturing kindness - but I think there is a great best-selling book and movie in this idea - go for it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-9571188298305973382009-02-26T14:10:00.000-08:002009-02-26T14:10:00.000-08:00I've read that the underlying technology of the bu...I've read that the underlying technology of the bus tracker is purely based on odometer readings, and nothing to do with GPS. Since the buses normally follow a proscribed route, this works. In the case of switching to snow routes, I don't know if all of the calculations are taken into account.William C Bonnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18419958146523957415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7478606652950905956.post-17890295531710559152009-02-26T13:31:00.000-08:002009-02-26T13:31:00.000-08:00Anonymous at 12:45:Andy just doesn't get it. He sh...Anonymous at 12:45:<BR/><BR/>Andy just doesn't get it. He should at least make his forecasts grammatically correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com